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  #31  
Old January 10th 08, 10:19 PM posted to misc.kids.health, misc.health.alternative
rpautrey2
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

The Active Vaccine Itself?
The Growth Medium Or Source?

Paul
  #32  
Old January 10th 08, 10:20 PM posted to misc.kids.health, misc.health.alternative
rpautrey2
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

On Jan 10, 4:19*pm, rpautrey2 wrote:
The Active Vaccine Itself?
The Growth Medium Or Source?

Paul


Contaminants?

PA
  #33  
Old January 10th 08, 11:08 PM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Jeff
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

vernon O wrote:

...

Who said mercury was the cause? You?
May it is, maybe it isn't, either way, Amish are a very small genetic
sampling.


Does removing mercury from vaccines decrease the amount of mercury get
significantly? Considering all the mercury that is found in the air from
burning coal, gets into the environment from other sources as well, like
florescent lamps, removing mercury from vaccines may not reduce the
amount of mercury that kids are exposed to very much.

Anyway, Amish are probably exposed to few toxins than those who live
near them, but have not adopted Amish ways.

Jeff

PS, whenever I go to the Reading Terminal Market in Philadelphia, I stop
at the Amish Pretzel place in the market. Great pretzels! Highly
recommended.
  #34  
Old January 12th 08, 03:02 AM posted to misc.kids.health, misc.health.alternative
Dunner
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

On Jan 10, 2:28*pm, "Carole" wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message

news:ZdKgj.4356$vX6.2735@trndny05...





Vaccine-man wrote:
Well, well - lookie, lookie...


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4099059&page=1


Thimerosal has nothing to do with autisms? Say it isn't so john, yuri,
jan-the-man, and Kevysmom! *Can you guys believe that? What will you
do now?


No matter how the anti-vac liar sociopaths twist and turn, they cannot
get around this one. The study was done by employees of the CDDS of the
statistics that they had claimed were the proof of the imaginary epidemic.


Of course, they will try, but they will continue to look like the evil
fools they are.


So I guess that just leaves theAmishcommunity who don't vaccinate and who
don't get autism.


A couple problems here...

The Amish, according to studies I've examined, do vaccinate. The
rates of vaccination amongst the Amish are indeed low. Because the
Old Order Amish have no centralised authority, different communities
have different views and practices regarding vaccination, and "low
rates" can be anywhere from under 5% vaccinated to 70%+ vaccinated
depending on the community. Hardly an "unvaccinated" community as a
whole.

And also, a question for you... What could it be that the Amish have
in common with, say, the Ashkenazim, that could be instrumental in
explaining the low rates of Autism? (As well as the high rates of
diseases otherwise exceedingly rare in the general population)...

(That is excepting differences in diet, lifestyle, environment (EMF,
pesticides, chemicals, etc.) the we will, for the sake of argument,
set aside for the moment).

Dunner

"Curiosity bespeaks the void"
-origins unknown

  #35  
Old January 12th 08, 03:36 PM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Mark Probert
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

Carole wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:ZdKgj.4356$vX6.2735@trndny05...
Vaccine-man wrote:
Well, well - lookie, lookie...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4099059&page=1

Thimerosal has nothing to do with autisms? Say it isn't so john, yuri,
jan-the-man, and Kevysmom! Can you guys believe that? What will you
do now?

No matter how the anti-vac liar sociopaths twist and turn, they cannot
get around this one. The study was done by employees of the CDDS of the
statistics that they had claimed were the proof of the imaginary epidemic.

Of course, they will try, but they will continue to look like the evil
fools they are.


So I guess that just leaves the Amish community who don't vaccinate and who
don't get autism.


Amish vaccinate and do have Autism.

Olmsted is a quack journalist.

During a recent visit to Lancaster County, I found no one who remembered
seeing him.

That is absolute alternative proof that he was not there.


So Peter, what did they replace the mercury with?

Carole
www.cellsalts.net




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Old January 12th 08, 03:37 PM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Mark Probert
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

rpautrey2 wrote:
The Active Vaccine Itself?
The Growth Medium Or Source?

Paul


None of the above. It is genetic.
  #37  
Old January 12th 08, 03:38 PM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Mark Probert
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

rpautrey2 wrote:
On Jan 10, 4:19 pm, rpautrey2 wrote:
The Active Vaccine Itself?
The Growth Medium Or Source?

Paul


Contaminants?



/Sarcasm on/
Since the rate continues to climb since safe and effective Thimerosal,
which protected against contaminants was removed, you may have a point.
/Sarcasm off/


PA

  #38  
Old January 12th 08, 05:06 PM posted to misc.kids.health, misc.health.alternative
Kevysmom[_2_]
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

On Jan 12, 10:36*am, Mark Probert
wrote:
Carole wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:ZdKgj.4356$vX6.2735@trndny05...
Vaccine-man wrote:
Well, well - lookie, lookie...


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4099059&page=1


Thimerosal has nothing to do with autisms? Say it isn't so john, yuri,
jan-the-man, and Kevysmom! *Can you guys believe that? What will you
do now?
No matter how the anti-vac liar sociopaths twist and turn, they cannot
get around this one. The study was done by employees of the CDDS of the
statistics that they had claimed were the proof of the imaginary epidemic.


Of course, they will try, but they will continue to look like the evil
fools they are.


So I guess that just leaves the Amish community who don't vaccinate and who
don't get autism.


Amish vaccinate and do have Autism.

Olmsted is a quack journalist.

During a recent visit to Lancaster County, I found no one who remembered
seeing him.

That is absolute alternative proof that he was not there.





So Peter, what did they replace the mercury with?


Carole
www.cellsalts.net- Hide quoted text -


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Conclusion
Taken together, all the above mentioned data from
experimental, clinical and partly from epidemiological
studies appear to show that repetitive mercury exposure
during pregnancy (through thimerosal and dental
amalgam), and after birth, through thimerosal containing
vaccinations in genetically susceptible individuals
is one potential pathogenetic factor in autism. Other
metals and toxicants, partly present in vaccines, and the
hormonal situation might have synergistic effects with
mercury. This has not been officially acknowledged.
Therefore it is mandatory to perform further studies
that address this issue with sound methodology and
through research uninfluenced by commercial, professional
or political interests. Given the widespread use of
mercury in medical products, even a small frequency
of pathological side effects have a significant impact to
public health. Therefore, for preventive purposes, it is
mandatory to avoid further use of mercury in medical
products in industrial and undeveloped countries.

http://www.uniklinik-freiburg.de/iuk...Autism_NEL.pdf
  #39  
Old January 12th 08, 05:16 PM posted to misc.kids.health, misc.health.alternative
The One True Zhen Jue
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

On Jan 12, 12:06*pm, Kevysmom wrote:
On Jan 12, 10:36*am, Mark Probert
wrote:





Carole wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:ZdKgj.4356$vX6.2735@trndny05...
Vaccine-man wrote:
Well, well - lookie, lookie...


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4099059&page=1


Thimerosal has nothing to do with autisms? Say it isn't so john, yuri,
jan-the-man, and Kevysmom! *Can you guys believe that? What will you
do now?
No matter how the anti-vac liar sociopaths twist and turn, they cannot
get around this one. The study was done by employees of the CDDS of the
statistics that they had claimed were the proof of the imaginary epidemic.


Of course, they will try, but they will continue to look like the evil
fools they are.


So I guess that just leaves the Amish community who don't vaccinate and who
don't get autism.


Amish vaccinate and do have Autism.


Olmsted is a quack journalist.


During a recent visit to Lancaster County, I found no one who remembered
seeing him.


That is absolute alternative proof that he was not there.


So Peter, what did they replace the mercury with?


Carole
www.cellsalts.net-Hide quoted text -


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Conclusion
Taken together, all the above mentioned data from
experimental, clinical and partly from epidemiological
studies appear to show that repetitive mercury exposure
during pregnancy (through thimerosal and dental
amalgam), and after birth, through thimerosal containing
vaccinations in genetically susceptible individuals
is one potential pathogenetic factor in autism. Other
metals and toxicants, partly present in vaccines, and the
hormonal situation might have synergistic effects with
mercury. This has not been officially acknowledged.
Therefore it is mandatory to perform further studies
that address this issue with sound methodology and
through research uninfluenced by commercial, professional
or political interests. Given the widespread use of
mercury in medical products, even a small frequency
of pathological side effects have a significant impact to
public health. Therefore, for preventive purposes, it is
mandatory to avoid further use of mercury in medical
products in industrial and undeveloped countries.

http://www.uniklinik-freiburg.de/iuk...tionen/Mut...- Hide quoted text -


Wow, that read like the fine print on a sucker's life insurance
contract! It also is wrong in its inferences.
Vaccination is not a cause of autism, nor is thimerosal. Well
controlled, Wide-scale, Replicated experiments world wide show this.

Autism will not be prevented nor properly treated if we choose
paranoid make-believe instead of science. Child-hating, Anti-Vac
liars and those who champion them are the problem, not thimerosal.

Now that I've settled that issue, once and for all, lets talk about
something related to health alternatives instead of paranoia-fueled
pseudo-science.



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Old January 13th 08, 02:53 AM posted to misc.kids.health, misc.health.alternative
Vaccine-man
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

On Jan 10, 12:28*pm, "Carole" wrote:

So I guess that just leaves the Amish community who don't vaccinate and who
don't get autism.


No, silly. It's because they don't watch TV...
 




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