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Old June 19th 08, 01:45 AM posted to alt.child-support
Gini[_2_]
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As of 6/24/2008, I will no longer have access to alt.child-support. As of
now, there don't seem to be any acceptable free newsreaders and I'm not
inclined to pay for access to alt groups since this is the only one I read.
Heh, I've been here for 11 years now, so maybe it's time to go--But, damn it
has been fun!

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Old June 19th 08, 03:14 AM posted to alt.child-support
teachrmama
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OMG, that's terrible!! I have been thinking about dropping newsgroups, too.
So much else I need to get done. But it was good to have this group and the
great advice I have received when we first got hit with the news about my
husband's older daughter. Take care of yourself, Gini.


"Gini" wrote in message
news:N_h6k.4445$n9.866@trndny01...
As of 6/24/2008, I will no longer have access to alt.child-support. As of
now, there don't seem to be any acceptable free newsreaders and I'm not
inclined to pay for access to alt groups since this is the only one I
read. Heh, I've been here for 11 years now, so maybe it's time to go--But,
damn it has been fun!



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Old June 19th 08, 04:30 AM posted to alt.child-support
Bob W
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"Gini" wrote in message
news:N_h6k.4445$n9.866@trndny01...
As of 6/24/2008, I will no longer have access to alt.child-support. As of
now, there don't seem to be any acceptable free newsreaders and I'm not
inclined to pay for access to alt groups since this is the only one I
read. Heh, I've been here for 11 years now, so maybe it's time to go--But,
damn it has been fun!


Welcome to the People's Republic of China. Dropping all alt.* newsgroups is
the same as China regulating Internet traffic.

We have NY democrat Cuomo to thank for this change. What I want to know is
how did Cuomo find 88 newsgroups with some child pornography on them out of
100,000 alt.* newsgroups? Forcing the shutdown of 100,000 groups to stop 88
doesn't seem like the American way of approaching law enforcement.

I went through the exploratory process for an add-on news service a few
years back because of crappy newsgroup access/service from my ISP. As long
as you don't download binaries very often you should easily find solid
newsgroup access for $5-8 per month. I went with Giganews' low-end GB
service at $7.99 per month and have been very pleased with their
reliability. There are others that cost less than that.

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Old June 19th 08, 08:23 PM posted to alt.child-support
DB[_4_]
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"Bob W" wrote in

100,000 alt.* newsgroups? Forcing the shutdown of 100,000 groups to stop
88 doesn't seem like the American way of approaching law enforcement.



The American way now is to lie down and take it!

Sheeple get what ever they deserve if they never speak up.



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Old June 20th 08, 02:26 AM posted to alt.child-support
Kenneth S.[_2_]
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"Gini" wrote in message
news:N_h6k.4445$n9.866@trndny01...
As of 6/24/2008, I will no longer have access to alt.child-support. As of
now, there don't seem to be any acceptable free newsreaders and I'm not
inclined to pay for access to alt groups since this is the only one I
read. Heh, I've been here for 11 years now, so maybe it's time to go--But,
damn it has been fun!


The same is true for me, and I've been following this news group for
almost 20 years. I've protested to Verizon, but I don't suppose it will
make any difference.

My impression is that Verizon is reacting to pressure from New York
Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, who says he is concerned about the very tiny
minority of alt. news groups that promote child pornography. Why Verizon
cannot just selectively screen out these objectionable groups, I don't know.

Interestingly enough, however, Cuomo has very obviously been imitating
the tactics of his predecessor as New York AG, Eliot Spitzer. Mr. Spitzer
created the impression that he was a clean-cut crusader against corruption
in the corporate world, intimidating many major firms in the process. Anyone
remember Spitzer? After abusing his powers as New York AG to force changes
in the policies of many big corporations, he traded on his "Mr. Clean" image
to become New York governor. Then he was discovered to have been paying
thousands of dollars for call girls, through an agency called the Emperors'
Club.


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Old June 20th 08, 04:37 AM posted to alt.child-support
Bob W
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"Kenneth S." wrote in message
news:AHD6k.128$fi.120@trnddc03...

"Gini" wrote in message
news:N_h6k.4445$n9.866@trndny01...
As of 6/24/2008, I will no longer have access to alt.child-support. As of
now, there don't seem to be any acceptable free newsreaders and I'm not
inclined to pay for access to alt groups since this is the only one I
read. Heh, I've been here for 11 years now, so maybe it's time to
go--But, damn it has been fun!


The same is true for me, and I've been following this news group for
almost 20 years. I've protested to Verizon, but I don't suppose it will
make any difference.

My impression is that Verizon is reacting to pressure from New York
Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, who says he is concerned about the very
tiny minority of alt. news groups that promote child pornography. Why
Verizon cannot just selectively screen out these objectionable groups, I
don't know.

Interestingly enough, however, Cuomo has very obviously been imitating
the tactics of his predecessor as New York AG, Eliot Spitzer. Mr. Spitzer
created the impression that he was a clean-cut crusader against corruption
in the corporate world, intimidating many major firms in the process.
Anyone remember Spitzer? After abusing his powers as New York AG to force
changes in the policies of many big corporations, he traded on his "Mr.
Clean" image to become New York governor. Then he was discovered to have
been paying thousands of dollars for call girls, through an agency called
the Emperors' Club.


Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

Since when does any AG from NY, or any other state, get to negotiate with a
company like Verizon about how they can do business in the other 49 states.

I hope some smart state AG takes on this issue and rams it down Cuomo's
throat.

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Old June 20th 08, 06:07 AM posted to alt.child-support
Dusty
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"Gini" wrote in message
news:N_h6k.4445$n9.866@trndny01...
As of 6/24/2008, I will no longer have access to alt.child-support. As of
now, there don't seem to be any acceptable free newsreaders and I'm not
inclined to pay for access to alt groups since this is the only one I
read. Heh, I've been here for 11 years now, so maybe it's time to go--But,
damn it has been fun!


The moment that happens it will mark a dark day for AC-S. There's got to be
an alternative to loosing one of the strongest voices of reason we have. I,
for one, would certainly miss you.


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Old June 20th 08, 02:46 PM posted to alt.child-support
Gini[_2_]
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"Dusty" wrote in message
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"Gini" wrote in message
news:N_h6k.4445$n9.866@trndny01...
As of 6/24/2008, I will no longer have access to alt.child-support. As of
now, there don't seem to be any acceptable free newsreaders and I'm not
inclined to pay for access to alt groups since this is the only one I
read. Heh, I've been here for 11 years now, so maybe it's time to
go--But, damn it has been fun!


The moment that happens it will mark a dark day for AC-S. There's got to
be an alternative to loosing one of the strongest voices of reason we
have. I, for one, would certainly miss you.

==
Ah, thanks, Dusty. Fact is though, nearly all the traffic through here
anymore isn't from dads in need but rather whining CPs or their new spouses
wanting more money. I don't think I/we've been able to offer any real help
to dads for months.



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Old June 20th 08, 06:09 PM posted to alt.child-support
DB[_4_]
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"Gini" wrote in

I don't think I/we've been able to offer any real help to dads for months.


Just a place to vent helps with our frustrations!



 




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