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Old June 8th 04, 09:12 AM
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:20:40 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
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Holger Dansk wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 18:16:27 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
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Holger Dansk wrote:
That's horrible. She has to show where someone else wrote it down for
people to believe her?

You also have to show references for people to believe you.


Never. You either believe me or you don't.


You are a racist, and not to be believed.

Therefore we don't believe you.


I'm not concerned about whether you believe me or not.


Good. Then we will continue to laugh at your inanity.

Why would I care what you believe about me?


Obviously you don't. You wouldn't be a racist.

If you don't believe me, it is your loss.


No. It is yours. Believing you would add nothing to the
conversation, or to the world. At least be disproving all your lies
with citations, I am educating myself,


Gee, I would never have known that I was helping to educate you.

Holger

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Old June 8th 04, 09:15 AM
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:22:00 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
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Holger Dansk wrote:
These people were wonderful in what they knew about the world.


For someone as ignorant as you, that means that they had an ordinary
college education.


A lot more than that. A college degree is just a license to learn.
Most of the important things are learned from the people that you know
in high school and college and later in your life.

Holger

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Old June 8th 04, 09:18 AM
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:22:37 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
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I'm sure Cosby dislikes the bad pronunciations as much as the poor
grammar.


Whereas I'm sure you are wrong.


How does anyone think that it is right to not pronounce a lot of common
English words correctly? You have to have some loose screws to believe
that.

Holger

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Old June 8th 04, 12:42 PM
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Holger Dansk wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:14:15 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
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The Greeks had a great civilization. Much greater than the Romans.
They gave us many, many things. Not just some art and some literature.

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Nonsense, they had the money to afford thinkers because they had
slaves once again, but they squandered it and most Athenians wasted
their money on high living, the few thinkers were a tiny minority.


The Greeks were not famous for being rich.


Very few become famous for being rich. But many who become famous for
other things had the opportunity to do other things BECAUSE they were
rich, and thus able to escape the daily grind.

I don't think there is any
mention of that in their history. I'm sure that the creators of
philosophy and architecture and math and on were probably about 10 % of
their culture.


More likely a fraction of 1%.

Their contributions to the world were incredible.


But yours are non-existent.

You see, they didn't even have libraries full of books to go and read.


They had libraries. You may recall the Great Library of Alexandria
(which was in Egypt, but it was an Egypt ruled by the successors of
Alexander, as is evident in the name).

If papyrus had rotted ten percent faster they'd have been unknown!


The Egyptians were the ones who found or created papyrus. That, and
some engineering (the pyramids, etc.) was about all they did.


More ignorance.

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Old June 8th 04, 02:52 PM
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yep everyone who states the truth be a racist..

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Holger Dansk wrote:

On Sun, 30 May 2004 21:42:37 GMT, greccogirl
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More black children come from broken homes. Something like 70%.



It's 68%. 68% of black-savage-Ethiopian-American women are unwed
mothers.

Holger

Black Savage? Now pray tell what makes them savages?? White people do
this, are they savages? If you wish to argue intelligently knock that
off. It DOES show racism on your part!!!







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Old June 8th 04, 02:57 PM
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 07:42:01 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
wrote:

Holger Dansk wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:14:15 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:
The Greeks had a great civilization. Much greater than the Romans.
They gave us many, many things. Not just some art and some literature.
----------------
Nonsense, they had the money to afford thinkers because they had
slaves once again, but they squandered it and most Athenians wasted
their money on high living, the few thinkers were a tiny minority.


The Greeks were not famous for being rich.


Very few become famous for being rich. But many who become famous for
other things had the opportunity to do other things BECAUSE they were
rich, and thus able to escape the daily grind.


Well, someone said, "The poor will always be with us.", and the vast
majority of black people are poor. However, they will not do anything
to improve their condition. If they would speak correctly, and if 68%
of the black females would not have children out of wedlock, and they
would learn the proper way to sit, stand, and sit, etc., it would be a
good beginning.

I don't think there is any
mention of that in their history. I'm sure that the creators of
philosophy and architecture and math and on were probably about 10 % of
their culture.


More likely a fraction of 1%.

Their contributions to the world were incredible.


But yours are non-existent.

You see, they didn't even have libraries full of books to go and read.


They had libraries.


Yes, but there were not any earlier peoples that had created anything
for them to learn from. They had to create practically all of it.

You see, a lot of what the Romans learned was from the Greeks after they
conquered them.

You may recall the Great Library of Alexandria
(which was in Egypt, but it was an Egypt ruled by the successors of
Alexander, as is evident in the name).


Yes, the Egyptians could read books to learn of the Greek creations.

If papyrus had rotted ten percent faster they'd have been unknown!


The Egyptians were the ones who found or created papyrus. That, and
some engineering (the pyramids, etc.) was about all they did.


Holger

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Old June 8th 04, 03:09 PM
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Holger Dansk wrote in message . ..

How does anyone think that it is right to not pronounce a lot of common
English words correctly?


Common English words like

Insurance
Umbrella
Install (commonly misused as a noun, btw)
Nuclear
I

....?

You have to have some loose screws to believe
that.


I've yet to hear you complain about Southern mispronunciations of the
following words. I imagine you think that it's either

a) correct, even though the dictionaries I've consulted do not support
"INsurance," "UMbrella", INstall", "Nookyouluhr" or "Ah" even as
alternative pronunciations; or

b) a lovable part of your heritage/culture/yadda yadda.

In either case--why don't you cut the brothers some slack already.
Sheesh. So long as the grammar's ok I don't really care if an
occasional "th" sound comes out like an "f", f'rinstance (a dialect
oddity some black Americans happen to share with Cockneys). Why do
you? Many regional/ethnic pronunciations are dying out in any case.
You might as well enjoy them while you can because our great-great
grandchildren, likely as not, won't have the foggiest idea of what a
"southern accent", a "Boston accent" or a "Brooklyn accent" is save
from what they hear in old movies.
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Old June 8th 04, 04:39 PM
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Dirk wrote:
Holger Dansk wrote in message
. ..
How does anyone think that it is right to not pronounce a lot of
common English words correctly?


Common English words like

Insurance
Umbrella
Install (commonly misused as a noun, btw)
Nuclear
I

...?

You have to have some loose screws to believe
that.


I've yet to hear you complain about Southern mispronunciations of
the following words. I imagine you think that it's either

a) correct, even though the dictionaries I've consulted do not
support "INsurance," "UMbrella", INstall", "Nookyouluhr" or "Ah"
even as alternative pronunciations; or

b) a lovable part of your heritage/culture/yadda yadda.

In either case--why don't you cut the brothers some slack already.
Sheesh. So long as the grammar's ok I don't really care if an
occasional "th" sound comes out like an "f", f'rinstance (a dialect
oddity some black Americans happen to share with Cockneys). Why do
you?


Moreoever, the current US President--a white man born with a silver spoon in
his mouth and privileged to have one of the best educations money can
buy--cannot pronounce "nuclear" or "sovereignty" plus a half dozen other
words correctly, regularly invents words (e.g. "misunderestimate"), and
often butchers grammar and syntax (e.g., "Is our children learning?"), but I
don't hear Holger complaining about that.
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Old June 8th 04, 04:51 PM
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Holger Dansk wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 18:07:31 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
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Her point is that the Greeks would not have done any of these
things without slavery, which gave them the wealth and free time
to engage in such endeavors.


That's absolutely ridiculous.


It is not only not ridiculous, it's a fact. A culture cannot engage in
significant intellectual or artistic pursuits without surplus food
production (e.g., wealth). Moreover, people's ability to produce am
agricultural surplus is directly tied to their geographical location. Asia,
Europe, and northern Africa are better suited, geographically, to surplus
food production than sub-Saharan Africa. (Aboriginal Australians and many
native Americans faced similar challenges and didn't have cultural
"floruits" as a result.) It's that simple. Asians and Europeans aren't
smarter or better than sub-Saharan Africans--they just live in a better
location, agriculturally speaking.
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fight. -- with apologies to Michael Feldman


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Old June 8th 04, 05:40 PM
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:51:06 -0700, "Circe" wrote:

Holger Dansk wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 18:07:31 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
wrote:
Her point is that the Greeks would not have done any of these
things without slavery, which gave them the wealth and free time
to engage in such endeavors.


That's absolutely ridiculous.


It is not only not ridiculous, it's a fact. A culture cannot engage in
significant intellectual or artistic pursuits without surplus food
production (e.g., wealth). Moreover, people's ability to produce am
agricultural surplus is directly tied to their geographical location. Asia,
Europe, and northern Africa are better suited, geographically, to surplus
food production than sub-Saharan Africa. (Aboriginal Australians and many
native Americans faced similar challenges and didn't have cultural
"floruits" as a result.) It's that simple. Asians and Europeans aren't
smarter or better than sub-Saharan Africans--they just live in a better
location, agriculturally speaking.


Boy are you mixed up and confused.

Holger

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