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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 14:44:45 -0500, toto wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:47:02 GMT, Holger Dansk wrote: Bush speaks excellent English. Here are a few of Bush's malapropisms. http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm "My job is to, like, think beyond the immediate." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 21, 2004 Where is the error? He's talking like his audience. "This has been tough weeks in that country." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2004 (note the lack of agreement between subject and verb here) "This" is the subject and "has been" is the verb. They agree very well. "Obviously, I pray every day there's less casualty." —George W. Bush, Fort Hood, Texas, April 11, 2004 No big deal here. He doesn't want to see one killed or more than one killed. (how does praying have casualties?) The praying is to have less casualties. "God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear." —George W. Bush, Los Angeles, Calif., March 3, 2004 (He and God are messages?) The message is that "Bush and God love you." "Recession means that people's incomes, at the employer level, are going down, basically, relative to costs, people are getting laid off." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 19, 2004 (the employer level? - does he mean that employer's incomes are going down Yes, what else could "at the employer level" mean? or that people who work *for* employers have less income - and, what income, if they are laid off?) The reason that they (employer level people) are being laid off is "relative to costs". "But the true strength of America is found in the hearts and souls of people like Travis, people who are willing to love their neighbor, just like they would like to love themselves." —George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004 (Travis only likes to love himself? - he doesn't really love himself?) You have to love yourself before you can love anyone else. "In my judgment, when the United States says there will be serious consequences, and if there isn't serious consequences, it creates adverse consequences." —George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004 (Adverse consequences aren't serious?) (There isn't - should be there aren't, but the whole sentence makes *no* sense at all) He's treating "serious consequences" as a single thing. Therefore, to use "aren't" instead of "isn't" would be wrong. "There is no such thing necessarily in a dictatorial regime of iron-clad absolutely solid evidence. The evidence I had was the best possible evidence that he had a weapon." —George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004 (Now we have a dictatorial regime?) What's wrong with that. Hussein was a dictator. "My views are one that speaks to freedom." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004 (His views are *one*?) He is using "one" to mean himself and his views and not a synonym for his views. "Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004 (Ya think he meant literacy level?) I think he made an error here. "Are" should be replaced with "is". "And if you're interested in the quality of education and you're paying attention to what you hear at Laclede, why don't you volunteer? Why don't you mentor a child how to read?" —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mo., Jan. 5, 2004 (mentor a child how to read? - doesn't he mean teach a child how to read?) Well, they are very similar. "So thank you for reminding me about the importance of being a good mom and a great volunteer as well." —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mos., Jan. 5, 2004 (I never knew George was a mom) He's talking about the importance of women being a good mom and volunteer. I don't have time to go through all of the rest of these. Maybe later. Holger "I want to remind you all that in order to fight and win the war, it requires an expenditure of money that is commiserate with keeping a promise to our troops to make sure that they're well-paid, well-trained, well-equipped." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 15, 2003 (You commisserate with people over things that happen to them - he means commensurate here). "This very week in 1989, there were protests in East Berlin and in Leipzig. By the end of that year, every communist dictatorship in Central America had collapsed." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Nov. 6, 2003 (This week in 1989? - when he is speaking in 2003?) "[W]hether they be Christian, Jew, or Muslim, or Hindu, people have heard the universal call to love a neighbor just like they'd like to be called themselves." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., October 8, 2003 (they were called, but they didn't answer g) "I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the news themselves." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 21, 2003 (I sure hope those briefers read the news, but maybe they just make it up). "I'm so pleased to be able to say hello to Bill Scranton. He's one of the great Pennsylvania political families." —George W. Bush, Drexel Hill, Penn., Sept. 15, 2003 (I never knew Bill Scranton was a family all by himself). "We had a chance to visit with Teresa Nelson who's a parent, and a mom or a dad." —George W. Bush, Jacksonville, Florida, Sept. 9, 2003 (I sure hope she is one or the other and not both a mom and a dad). "As Luce reminded me, he said, without data, without facts, without information, the discussions about public education mean that a person is just another opinion." —George W. Bush, Jacksonville, Florida, Sept. 9, 2003 (a person is an opinion?) "We had a good Cabinet meeting, talked about a lot of issues. Secretary of State and Defense brought us up to date about our desires to spread freedom and peace around the world." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 1, 2003 (The Secretary of State and Defense? And they brought who up to date on their own desires?) "Security is the essential roadblock to achieving the road map to peace." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 25, 2003 (huh?) "It's very interesting when you think about it, the slaves who left here to go to America, because of their steadfast and their religion and their belief in freedom, helped change America." —George W. Bush, Dakar, Senegal, July 8, 2003 (steadfast and religion? - the slaves did what?) "You've also got to measure in order to begin to effect change that's just more — when there's more than talk, there's just actual — a paradigm shift." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 1, 2003 (this one makes no sense at all) "Iran would be dangerous if they have a nuclear weapon." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 18, 2003 (yeah, they sure would be) "The true strength of America happens when a neighbor loves a neighbor just like they'd like to be loved themselves." —George W. Bush, Elizabeth, N.J., June 16, 2003 (makes me wonder if he's lusting after his neighbor) "We are making steadfast progress." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 9, 2003 (just what is steadfast progress?) "I'm the master of low expectations." —George W. Bush, aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003 (I bet he is) "I recently met with the finance minister of the Palestinian Authority, was very impressed by his grasp of finances." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 29, 2003 (one hopes that a finance minister would have a grasp of finances) "I've got very good relations with President Mubarak and Crown Prince Abdallah and the King of Jordan, Gulf Coast countries." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 29, 2003 (Gulf Coast countries?) "All up and down the different aspects of our society, we had meaningful discussions. Not only in the Cabinet Room, but prior to this and after this day, our secretaries, respective secretaries, will continue to interact to create the conditions necessary for prosperity to reign." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 19, 2003 (prior to this, they will continue to interact?) "I think war is a dangerous place." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 7, 2003 (war is a place?) "We ended the rule of one of history's worst tyrants, and in so doing, we not only freed the American people, we made our own people more secure." —George W. Bush, Crawford, Texas, May 3, 2003 (he meant freed the Iraqis, I presume?) "You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order — order out of chaos. But we will." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2003 (he's going to restore chaos?) "Perhaps one way will be, if we use military force, in the post-Saddam Iraq the U.N. will definitely need to have a role. And that way it can begin to get its legs, legs of responsibility back." —George W. Bush, the Azores, Portugal, March 16, 2003 (legs of responsibility?) "[The Space Shuttle] Columbia carried in its payroll classroom experiments from some of our students in America." —George W. Bush, Bethesda, Md., Feb. 3, 2003 (I sure hope that the payroll didn't blow up along with the experiments) "And, most importantly, Alma Powell, secretary of Colin Powell, is with us." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 30, 2003 (secretary of what?) "The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself." —George W. Bush, Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003 (I never knew Saddam was scared of himself) "When Iraq is liberated, you will be treated, tried and persecuted as a war criminal." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 22, 2003 (I know he means prosecuted, but he didn't say that) "One year ago today, the time for excuse-making has come to an end." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 8, 2003 (one year ago, the time has come?) These are just a few of GW's gaffs in English. http://www.mindspring.com/~holger1/holger1.htm |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 21:25:28 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote: Holger Dansk wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:39:36 -0700, "Circe" wrote: Dirk wrote: Holger Dansk wrote in message . .. How does anyone think that it is right to not pronounce a lot of common English words correctly? Common English words like Insurance Umbrella Install (commonly misused as a noun, btw) Nuclear I ...? You have to have some loose screws to believe that. I've yet to hear you complain about Southern mispronunciations of the following words. I imagine you think that it's either a) correct, even though the dictionaries I've consulted do not support "INsurance," "UMbrella", INstall", "Nookyouluhr" or "Ah" even as alternative pronunciations; or b) a lovable part of your heritage/culture/yadda yadda. In either case--why don't you cut the brothers some slack already. Sheesh. So long as the grammar's ok I don't really care if an occasional "th" sound comes out like an "f", f'rinstance (a dialect oddity some black Americans happen to share with Cockneys). Why do you? Moreoever, the current US President--a white man born with a silver spoon in his mouth and privileged to have one of the best educations money can buy--cannot pronounce "nuclear" or "sovereignty" plus a half dozen other words correctly, regularly invents words (e.g. "misunderestimate"), and often butchers grammar and syntax (e.g., "Is our children learning?"), but I don't hear Holger complaining about that. Bush speaks excellent English. Holger ------------- If you actually think so then you have fully demonstrated your ignorance. Bush is so illiterate that he can't even pronounce the name of a prison that has been in the top of the news for weeks and for which HIS people on HIS watch stand accused! He manifests a form of quite classic alcoholic mental dystonia that makes me think that he was either a fetal alcohol-syndrome baby before that was well-understood, and that Barbara has an alcoholic past, or that he's poisoned one too many neurons, or that he was actually born borderline retarded. and that this will come out eventually and the coverup of it, and that for a retard that he is functioning at an amazing level, that is, of course, for a retard! You are a nitwit. You don't graduate from Yale without some ability. Steve http://www.mindspring.com/~holger1/holger1.htm |
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"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message ... toto wrote: On 8 Jun 2004 11:57:26 -0500, (Herman Rubin) wrote: Look at the industrial revolution. How much of a role did slavery have in it? I guess that depends on what you mean by slavery. The women and children who worked in the garment factories were effectively slaves. So were the miners who worked in mines with no standards of safety. -- Dorothy -------------------------- If you have to rent housing, or pay a mortgage most of your life to be able to PRETEND to "own" a home, and if you did not receive the right to an existing home from the People's State upon your birth, which was available to you when you decided to live on your own, then you are actually just a slave to someone rich who claims ownership of his unearned share of the world and YOURS TOO, and now uses you for slave labor to do YOUR work and HIS WORK FOR HIM AS WELL, so HE doesn't HAVE to, and that's SLAVERY!! You and the rich guy(s) you serve were both born into the world naked and stupid. Only you're still stupid if you all haven't ganged up on the rich yet and taken your share of the world back from them by violence and further direct threat of violence, and also by forbidding all the forms of scamming and unerned quest for wealth without work, that means you all will have to totally destroy all the speculating/lending/insurance/banking and financial institutions that preserve the rent/mortgage-slavery system itself. Even then you will never be free till you make a law that says that ANYONE who tries to collect money from another person for living in a home anywhere, or tries to evict another from their residence, shall be immediately taken from that place by a mob and they shall be killed with a shot to the head and that their body will be left right there left on a pike to ROT as an example!!! Steve |
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"Holger Dansk" wrote in message ... On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 21:44:38 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" wrote: Holger Dansk wrote: On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:03:11 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" wrote: Those people's labor for themselves would have done such incredible good that it cannot even be fathomed. They wouldn't know what to do. There would not be anyone to tell them what to do. ----------------- They knew what to do, they had been doing it FOR their masters for ages. Just like the black savages in Africa who have killed so many of the white farm owners. They worked in the field on some of these farms, but, after killing the boss, they don't know how to operate the farm so it just becomes a wasteland or goes back to undeveloped land. Holger -------------------- Nonsense, the racist friends of white slavers who had worked the blacks cut off the seed supply, and the republicans here decided not to help them. Sort of: "If us rich white guys can't own it all, then nobody can, even the people who deserve to!" Where in the world did you get that crap? If you can't see how savage many of the blacks are in Africa, then, I'm sure people feel sorry for you. You don't have a correct conception of what is right and wrong. Brother Holger; I feel that poor Stevie is slipping over the edge, and onto that long slippery slope to becoming a total ranting idiot. Please, continue in your assistance ! Jasper |
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I'm still waiting for you to state a "truth".
Charley Brown and Almighty Snoopy wrote: yep everyone who states the truth be a racist.. |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 23:52:41 GMT, Holger Dansk
wrote: On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 14:44:45 -0500, toto wrote: On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:47:02 GMT, Holger Dansk wrote: Bush speaks excellent English. Here are a few of Bush's malapropisms. http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm "My job is to, like, think beyond the immediate." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 21, 2004 Where is the error? He's talking like his audience. "This has been tough weeks in that country." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2004 (note the lack of agreement between subject and verb here) "This" is the subject and "has been" is the verb. They agree very well. Sorry. It should be These have been tough weeks. Or This has been a tough week. I mispoke what the error actually was. "Obviously, I pray every day there's less casualty." —George W. Bush, Fort Hood, Texas, April 11, 2004 No big deal here. He doesn't want to see one killed or more than one killed. Then it should be I pray every day there are less casualties. It's still incorrect. (how does praying have casualties?) The praying is to have less casualties. Ah, but that is not what he said. "God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear." —George W. Bush, Los Angeles, Calif., March 3, 2004 (He and God are messages?) The message is that "Bush and God love you." That's not what he said though. And if that is what he meant, he's being arrogant. He's a man, not God. "Recession means that people's incomes, at the employer level, are going down, basically, relative to costs, people are getting laid off." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 19, 2004 (the employer level? - does he mean that employer's incomes are going down Yes, what else could "at the employer level" mean? or that people who work *for* employers have less income and, what income, if they are laid off?) The reason that they (employer level people) are being laid off is "relative to costs". They are not *employer level people* though. Employees are *not* employers (unless they are working for themselves) "But the true strength of America is found in the hearts and souls of people like Travis, people who are willing to love their neighbor, just like they would like to love themselves." —George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004 (Travis only likes to love himself? - he doesn't really love himself?) You have to love yourself before you can love anyone else. Again read what he said, not what you translate. He says just like they would *like* to love themselves. It's not correct English. "In my judgment, when the United States says there will be serious consequences, and if there isn't serious consequences, it creates adverse consequences." —George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004 (Adverse consequences aren't serious?) (There isn't - should be there aren't, but the whole sentence makes *no* sense at all) He's treating "serious consequences" as a single thing. Therefore, to use "aren't" instead of "isn't" would be wrong. Sorry, he doesn't make the rules. Consequences is a plural noun. "There is no such thing necessarily in a dictatorial regime of iron-clad absolutely solid evidence. The evidence I had was the best possible evidence that he had a weapon." —George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004 (Now we have a dictatorial regime?) What's wrong with that. Hussein was a dictator. Yes, but in the sentence, the dictatorial regime is *his* not Saddam's. He is clearly referring to the American regime when he refers to having no such thing as iron-clad evidence. "My views are one that speaks to freedom." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004 (His views are *one*?) He is using "one" to mean himself and his views and not a synonym for his views. Incorrect English. If that is what he meant, then the sentence should have said *I am one that speaks to freedom, not my views are one.* "Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004 (Ya think he meant literacy level?) I think he made an error here. "Are" should be replaced with "is". The illiteracy level though? The correct sentence would read: "Then you wake up at the high school leve and find out that the literacy level of our children is appalling. "And if you're interested in the quality of education and you're paying attention to what you hear at Laclede, why don't you volunteer? Why don't you mentor a child how to read?" —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mo., Jan. 5, 2004 (mentor a child how to read? - doesn't he mean teach a child how to read?) Well, they are very similar. No, they are not. You cannot *mentor* a child to read. You can teach a child to read. "So thank you for reminding me about the importance of being a good mom and a great volunteer as well." —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mos., Jan. 5, 2004 (I never knew George was a mom) He's talking about the importance of women being a good mom and volunteer. I know what he meant, but that isn't what he said. I don't have time to go through all of the rest of these. Maybe later. LOL. You translate him well, but he is still butchering the language. Holger "I want to remind you all that in order to fight and win the war, it requires an expenditure of money that is commiserate with keeping a promise to our troops to make sure that they're well-paid, well-trained, well-equipped." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 15, 2003 (You commisserate with people over things that happen to them - he means commensurate here). "This very week in 1989, there were protests in East Berlin and in Leipzig. By the end of that year, every communist dictatorship in Central America had collapsed." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Nov. 6, 2003 (This week in 1989? - when he is speaking in 2003?) "[W]hether they be Christian, Jew, or Muslim, or Hindu, people have heard the universal call to love a neighbor just like they'd like to be called themselves." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., October 8, 2003 (they were called, but they didn't answer g) "I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the news themselves." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 21, 2003 (I sure hope those briefers read the news, but maybe they just make it up). "I'm so pleased to be able to say hello to Bill Scranton. He's one of the great Pennsylvania political families." —George W. Bush, Drexel Hill, Penn., Sept. 15, 2003 (I never knew Bill Scranton was a family all by himself). "We had a chance to visit with Teresa Nelson who's a parent, and a mom or a dad." —George W. Bush, Jacksonville, Florida, Sept. 9, 2003 (I sure hope she is one or the other and not both a mom and a dad). "As Luce reminded me, he said, without data, without facts, without information, the discussions about public education mean that a person is just another opinion." —George W. Bush, Jacksonville, Florida, Sept. 9, 2003 (a person is an opinion?) "We had a good Cabinet meeting, talked about a lot of issues. Secretary of State and Defense brought us up to date about our desires to spread freedom and peace around the world." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 1, 2003 (The Secretary of State and Defense? And they brought who up to date on their own desires?) "Security is the essential roadblock to achieving the road map to peace." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 25, 2003 (huh?) "It's very interesting when you think about it, the slaves who left here to go to America, because of their steadfast and their religion and their belief in freedom, helped change America." —George W. Bush, Dakar, Senegal, July 8, 2003 (steadfast and religion? - the slaves did what?) "You've also got to measure in order to begin to effect change that's just more — when there's more than talk, there's just actual — a paradigm shift." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 1, 2003 (this one makes no sense at all) "Iran would be dangerous if they have a nuclear weapon." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 18, 2003 (yeah, they sure would be) "The true strength of America happens when a neighbor loves a neighbor just like they'd like to be loved themselves." —George W. Bush, Elizabeth, N.J., June 16, 2003 (makes me wonder if he's lusting after his neighbor) "We are making steadfast progress." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 9, 2003 (just what is steadfast progress?) "I'm the master of low expectations." —George W. Bush, aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003 (I bet he is) "I recently met with the finance minister of the Palestinian Authority, was very impressed by his grasp of finances." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 29, 2003 (one hopes that a finance minister would have a grasp of finances) "I've got very good relations with President Mubarak and Crown Prince Abdallah and the King of Jordan, Gulf Coast countries." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 29, 2003 (Gulf Coast countries?) "All up and down the different aspects of our society, we had meaningful discussions. Not only in the Cabinet Room, but prior to this and after this day, our secretaries, respective secretaries, will continue to interact to create the conditions necessary for prosperity to reign." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 19, 2003 (prior to this, they will continue to interact?) "I think war is a dangerous place." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 7, 2003 (war is a place?) "We ended the rule of one of history's worst tyrants, and in so doing, we not only freed the American people, we made our own people more secure." —George W. Bush, Crawford, Texas, May 3, 2003 (he meant freed the Iraqis, I presume?) "You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order — order out of chaos. But we will." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2003 (he's going to restore chaos?) "Perhaps one way will be, if we use military force, in the post-Saddam Iraq the U.N. will definitely need to have a role. And that way it can begin to get its legs, legs of responsibility back." —George W. Bush, the Azores, Portugal, March 16, 2003 (legs of responsibility?) "[The Space Shuttle] Columbia carried in its payroll classroom experiments from some of our students in America." —George W. Bush, Bethesda, Md., Feb. 3, 2003 (I sure hope that the payroll didn't blow up along with the experiments) "And, most importantly, Alma Powell, secretary of Colin Powell, is with us." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 30, 2003 (secretary of what?) "The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself." —George W. Bush, Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003 (I never knew Saddam was scared of himself) "When Iraq is liberated, you will be treated, tried and persecuted as a war criminal." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 22, 2003 (I know he means prosecuted, but he didn't say that) "One year ago today, the time for excuse-making has come to an end." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 8, 2003 (one year ago, the time has come?) These are just a few of GW's gaffs in English. http://www.mindspring.com/~holger1/holger1.htm -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 23:28:05 GMT, Holger Dansk
wrote: You proved my point. As far as you are concerned, all *white* people speak good English, even when their English is atrocious (aka GW Bush). Thank you for your honesty. Just because Bush speaks excellent English does not mean all white people do. Bush doesn't speak excellent English though. He cannot pronounce nuclear (neither could some other presidents). He uses incorrect words. His tenses don't agree with the subjects or objects in his sentences. Aside from that his words don't even make sense when he speaks *off the cuff.* -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 23:54:33 GMT, Holger Dansk
wrote: You are a nitwit. You don't graduate from Yale without some ability. Unless you are the son of a famous alumna. Bush daddy got him in and Bush daddy would have been displeased if he had not graduated, so he graduated with a quite undistinguished record too. Even his teachers at prep school were surprised that he was accepted into Yale. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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