Poor Mothers crying Wa Wa

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On Mon, 18 May 2009 20:53:11 -0700, "DB" wrote:

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On Mon, 18 May 2009 11:07:35 -0500, "Phil"
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Same old ****: 'men are guilty (of everything) and women are stupid and
helpless victims'.



WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!


WAaaaaaa my gas went up!
WAaaaaaa I lost my house to foreclosure!
WAaaaaaa, I have to pay more road taxes!
WAaaaaaa, we're over 10 $Trillion in debt.
WAaaaaaa, companies and banks are closing
WAaaaaaa, we are all a nation of whiners, why is my whining any less
relevant?


Ah I see your a Phil Gramm Republican. LOL.

You fathered kids. Take some ****ing responsibility.

One is not responsible for a choice that is impossible for them to make. It
simply follows.

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news On Wed, 13 May 2009 18:42:29 -0700, "DB" wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...r=HOME_5011283


Looks like a lot of dumb as women don't know how to use birth control
or
maybe it's a meal ticket for them?

I find it interesting that none of the news stories I have
read about the increased proportion of unmarried mothers said anything
about the attitude of the fathers.

Did the mothers consult them before deliberately getting
pregnant, and letting the pregnancies proceed to childbirth? Not a
word about the possibility that 18+ years of "child support" were
imposed on these men without their consent.

DB's meal ticket point apparently never entered the heads of
the reporters who wrote the stories.

The Child Support system is the most concealed system that directly
effects
millions of male citizens who will come under direct government control.
Every unwed birth is another license for the State to extract 60% of a
male's income. Why is not being taught in the schools, a baby will
financially ruin any male's future!

Teach all the young men you know..... Get "fixed" or get financially
raped.

Where will all the future tax payers come from and who will pay our debts?

There's an ole' saying: "Socialism works fine, until you run out of other
people's money".

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On Sun, 17 May 2009 09:40:43 -0700, "DB" wrote:

Why, child support has a very negative impact on the economics of all
males.

We don't care about your personal "economics".


Why don't "we" You seem to want his *PERSONAL* money when it comes to
income tax.

You see, that's just it. There is no such thing as "personal" money when it
comes to socialism; your money is "OUR money". Thus, when they extort the
fruits of your labor, it really isn't your cash; it always has belonged to
the government people. Just be grateful for the little bit of (YOUR) money
they "give" to you.


Out side of your love fest group - here you just look like a lot of
one issue whiney guys with lots of excuses who won't man up for their
kids.

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On Mon, 18 May 2009 20:56:58 -0700, "DB" wrote:

Waaaah. SO the answer is A. I understand. I've seen DB doing this act
for years. No wonder you guys . . . Oh never mind.

It's only when everyone wakes up and realizes that if you take a majority
of
male citizen's independence, you have no society worth living in.


A majority of males are responsible enough not to father kids they
won't support.

Your above statement is false on two counts:
1. It is impossible, post-conception, for any man to choose to not father a
child.
2. It is impossible for any man to choose to not support a child.

And will support the ones they father.

You really want to define yourself as a victim for the rest of your
life it seems.

No, he does NOT. That is precisely why he is posting here in the first
place.

It's probably better you not be around your kids too
much, that sort of weak spined whininess is not a good example of what
it means to be a man or a parent.

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On Mon, 18 May 2009 21:18:12 -0700, "Clave"
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show your kids how a man handles responsibility


Bingo!

Well that's the whole deal, innit?

Can you imagine their kids running across these threads when they're older
and realizing what a financial *inconvenience* they were to their own
emotionally-stunted fathers?

Did someone here claim that children are a "financial inconvenience"? I must
have missed that post.


It'd be a rare kid who wouldn't come off that **** without scars.

Jim

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On Mon, 18 May 2009 21:18:12 -0700, "Clave"
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show your kids how a man handles responsibility


Bingo!

Well that's the whole deal, innit?

Can you imagine their kids running across these threads when they're
older and realizing what a financial *inconvenience* they were to
their own emotionally-stunted fathers?


Can you imagine the kids finding out what their father went through when
they also divorce later in life?

"Dad why didn't you tell me I have a target painted on my ass?"

Well Son, I didn't want to whine.....

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On Mon, 18 May 2009 21:18:12 -0700, "Clave"
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show your kids how a man handles responsibility



You mean how a slave handles responsibility.

The whining -- it burns like stupid.

Jim

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Workers meaning minimum wage jobs as the good paying jobs are gone?
Has it come to the point where you have to have a government job to get a
decent wage these days?
Its not upta me. We seem to be in a global system where there are
workers in other regions that'll produce more profit, and hence draw
more investment to build more plants for more such jobs.

I've advocated a return to the village economic model, which is an order
of magnitude more efficient than cottage industry, more like small
business, which has been shown to be very profitable.

But- the cost of living in a rural agrarian village is so low that even
global level wages are enuf to live comfortably. They grow their own
food, raise their own livestock, cut their own timber, mill their own
lumber, cut their own firewood, and in a word, meet all their usual
routine needs, only needing a small amount of cash for imported goods
like PCs, broadband, or medical care.

If the economy tanks, then they can get by on just the local resources
until trade picks up again. The village has its own childcare and one
room schoolhouse. Mothers dont worry about the kids cause there are no
strangers with candy, and nobody can stalk the women either when
everyone knows everyone who lives there.

Village elders, witches and shamen provided what we now call 'case
management', but unlike the shrink, actually lived with the clients so
they picked up on stuff that never went reported in therapy sessions.
Add fertility clinic services, and each generation is saner, smarter,
and more adaptable to local, regional, or global market opportunities.

If less talented women use in vitro, then the village makes a quantum
leap in functionality in a single generation. And rather than parking
the seniors in an assisted living center, keep them on hand to watch the
kids while the parents work. Which lowers the cost of childcare. So,
even if it is 'minimum wage', they still live well because the per
capita carbon foot print is so much lower.

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Well, since the *******s are gonna be raised on welfare anyway, why
dont we bribe women to use fertility clinics? The kids the taxpayers
pay to be raised would be gonzo smarter and worth it.

They won't be any smarter, probably dumber. Worth depends on value.
These little welfare mongers have none except to keep prisons filled and
police employed.
Read up on in vitro. Even dim witted women can have perfectly adequate
maternal instincts, and if the kids are smarter and healthier to start
with, they'll be lots easier to raise and cost the taxpayers much less.

Be even smarter to use the FEMA trailers to build rural villages and
move the welfare queens- leaving the stud muffin boyfriends and thugs in
the city. No gang violence. No rapes. No sexual abuse. No drugs. no problem.

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On Mon, 18 May 2009 11:12:52 -0500, "Phil"
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The interesting thing is they form groups and bitch about it ad
infinitum. Get a life. Get on with it. These are people who are
likely
to tell others "life isn't fair" "suck it up or **** off".

We're not bitching but trying to find a way to insure all citizens
have
equal rights, not just women.
Of course some people see "equal" as infringing upon women's rights,
which it would.

But they bitch about it forever!

We live it forever. DUH. You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are
you?


get a life already.

Ok, exactly how? I'm sure you think it is of little consequence that
thousands of fathers are not allowed to BE fathers because of rampant
and legal vengeance. I doubt you care as long as women get, men give.


(Now watch the string of I would but she took it whines.)

Your turn may be coming... unless you are female (which I highly
suspect, given your misandry).


Are you going to spend your whole life being a victim? Or are you
going to get on with your life?


What makes you think I'm a victim?
You're really not at all too bright, are you?
Phil #3