tangled hair

On Feb 13, 3:11 pm, Banty wrote:
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On Feb 13, 1:23 pm, Banty wrote:
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On Feb 13, 10:31 am, Banty wrote:
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On Feb 13, 9:25 am, enigma wrote:
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I use garnier fructise leave in conditioner for my DD's
hair every single day. By the next day it's frizzy again. I
wash her hair once a week. Can anyone recommend something
stronger than the leave-in? Is there a hair gel appropriate
for kids hair? She's very sensitive to begin with and this
is causing too many tears in the morning.

braid it for bedtime?
my son has very fine below shoulder length hair & i find it
tangles if it's washed more than weekly. i just wash it, put
in a conditioner to detangle it, comb it & then rinse with
vinegar. if he wears his hooded shirt hoods up all day it
tangles, but not so badly it doesn't brush out.
maybe the leave-in conditioner is causing stickiness &
tangles?

What kind of hair texture does she have, and how long is it? Both very fine
and
very curly/nappy hair can have tangling problems, but the solutions and
products
would be quite different.

Banty

OP here.
She has fine hair, not curly somewhere between straight and wavy. It
gets frizzy and tangled. It's just below her shoulders now. She wants
to grow it longer. Over the years she had short and long hair and I
didn't find one easier than the other.

My hair is fine (although 'thick' in that I have a lot of it) and wavy - I use a
"defrizzer" from the salon and it works fairly well. It's hard to get it
completely even, though, but you may have better luck with it. As to whether or
not it tears her eyes; you'll just have to just try different ones.

Is your house very dry in the wintertime, do you get static problems? Maybe
that's part of it too...

Banty

What is the brand name of the defrizzer you use? Thanks.

I use Paul Mitchell "Gloss Drops".

It's not for the frugal
..but I hate fussing with my hair so, since it works, I don't want to try other
stuff.

Banty

I'm frugal only when I can get away with it
So far I've used Biosilk, fructise, J&J detangling spray, Infusium,
and Pantene leave in conditioner. One more product won't hurt All
those that I've used only work for that day. By the next day, we're
back to frizzy hair.

On Feb 14, 5:25 am, "Sue" wrote:
I understand you use a leave in conditioner, but do you use a conditioner
when you wash her hair that rinses out? DD1 has frizzy, curly hair and she
uses a rinse out conditioner and then Fructise (or whatever that is)
de-frizz stuff on her hair after she is done. She doesn't blow dry her hair
either.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)

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I use garnier fructise leave in conditioner for my DD's hair every
single day. By the next day it's frizzy again. I wash her hair once a
week. Can anyone recommend something stronger than the leave-in? Is
there a hair gel appropriate for kids hair? She's very sensitive to
begin with and this is causing too many tears in the morning.

When I wash their hair, I squeeze out the water and apply the leave-in
while it's still wet. Then I dry the hair with cold air. I figured
since I'm using the leave in anyway, I don't need the rinse-out
conditioner.
I'll try it this weekend. I bought an super strong rinse out
conditioner from Fructise. I don't remember what it's called but it
comes in a small tub. We should apply and leave it for 3 minutes and
rinse out. I'll see if it works.
The frizz is mostly on the sides of her hair, behind the ears.

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On Feb 13, 5:41 pm, "MarieD" wrote:
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I tried the spray but I have to spray so much that it makes her hair
wet. I have to brush and dry it again. I hope there's an easier
solution. Thanks.

Why do you have to dry it? That might be adding to your problem. If I
blow-dry my hair, it gets really tangly until I wash it again. Plus it's
damaging to some people's hair. Wet hair won't hurt anyone. When my kids got
out of the shower when they were little, I combed and then braided their
hair for bed. No blow-drying.
Marie

If I leave her with damp hair, she gets head cold and keeps sneezing
all day. I'm the same way. I dry her hair with cold air button on the
dryer. I see your point though.

Sounds like an allergy rather than a head cold. A head cold doesn't
make you sneeze just one day, and colds come from viruses, and not wet
heads.

Are you sure she doesn't sneeze at other times. I sometimes sneeze a
couple of times in the morning due to temperature change, and also
dust and mold and other things that I'm allergic to will set me off.

On Feb 14, 9:29 am, Rosalie B. wrote:
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On Feb 13, 5:41 pm, "MarieD" wrote:
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I tried the spray but I have to spray so much that it makes her hair
wet. I have to brush and dry it again. I hope there's an easier
solution. Thanks.

Why do you have to dry it? That might be adding to your problem. If I
blow-dry my hair, it gets really tangly until I wash it again. Plus it's
damaging to some people's hair. Wet hair won't hurt anyone. When my kids got
out of the shower when they were little, I combed and then braided their
hair for bed. No blow-drying.
Marie

If I leave her with damp hair, she gets head cold and keeps sneezing
all day. I'm the same way. I dry her hair with cold air button on the
dryer. I see your point though.

Sounds like an allergy rather than a head cold. A head cold doesn't
make you sneeze just one day, and colds come from viruses, and not wet
heads.

Are you sure she doesn't sneeze at other times. I sometimes sneeze a
couple of times in the morning due to temperature change, and also
dust and mold and other things that I'm allergic to will set me off.

That's interesting. Take me for an example. Ever since I was a child,
if I don't dry my hair thoroughly, I feel groggy and sick, sneeze a
lot and I have to take a nap. I don't know what I'm allergic to. It's
certainly not one shampoo because I change it often.

What is this called if not head cold? I'm not calling it cold in the
"viral" sense of the word. I'm just curious to know what it is.

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On Feb 14, 9:29 am, Rosalie B. wrote:
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On Feb 13, 5:41 pm, "MarieD" wrote:
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I tried the spray but I have to spray so much that it makes her hair
wet. I have to brush and dry it again. I hope there's an easier
solution. Thanks.

Why do you have to dry it? That might be adding to your problem. If I
blow-dry my hair, it gets really tangly until I wash it again. Plus it's
damaging to some people's hair. Wet hair won't hurt anyone. When my kids got
out of the shower when they were little, I combed and then braided their
hair for bed. No blow-drying.
Marie

If I leave her with damp hair, she gets head cold and keeps sneezing
all day. I'm the same way. I dry her hair with cold air button on the
dryer. I see your point though.

Sounds like an allergy rather than a head cold. A head cold doesn't
make you sneeze just one day, and colds come from viruses, and not wet
heads.

Are you sure she doesn't sneeze at other times. I sometimes sneeze a
couple of times in the morning due to temperature change, and also
dust and mold and other things that I'm allergic to will set me off.

That's interesting. Take me for an example. Ever since I was a child,
if I don't dry my hair thoroughly, I feel groggy and sick, sneeze a
lot and I have to take a nap. I don't know what I'm allergic to. It's
certainly not one shampoo because I change it often.

What is this called if not head cold? I'm not calling it cold in the
"viral" sense of the word. I'm just curious to know what it is.

I might sneeze from a chill if my hair is wet and there's a draft. Just like
wind makes my eyes water and nose run.

There also may be some suggestibility going on here, as our mother's generation
really did believe that colds were caught from chills.

Try just gently towling off her hair, maybe using a second towel to get the hair
only damp.n

Banty

Hi --

A little sneezing isn't a problem. If that's all it is, let her sneeze.
If it's more than sneezing, but only happens when you leave her hair
wet, then do the experiment of leaving her hair wet without having used
any shampoo or anything. It could be that she's mildly allergic to the
wet shampoo/conditioner residue, but once it has dried it's less in the
air and so bothers her less.

Other ideas might be to wash her hair earlier, say, before supper, so
her hair has a chance to dry naturally before she goes to bed. When it
gets warm out, just wash it in the morning.

Some hair is just naturally tangly. Your choices are to keep it very
short, or wait until it gets very long and then tie it into braids.

I found, by the way, that combing long hair under the shower was easier
than combing it out of the shower. You can do that on days when it's
okay to leave the hair quite wet. (Just squeeze it out gently with a
towel once out of the shower.)

I hope these thought help.
--Beth Kevles
-THE-COM-HERE
http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the GMAIL one if you would
like me to reply.

On Feb 13, 7:20*am, wrote:
I use garnier fructise leave in conditioner for my DD's hair every
single day. By the next day it's frizzy again. I wash her hair once a
week. Can anyone recommend something stronger than the leave-in? Is
there a hair gel appropriate for kids hair? She's very sensitive to
begin with and this is causing too many tears in the morning.

I second the suggestions to
1. Let it air dry, and
2. Get a trim. Just 1/4 inch if she's trying to grow it out. But
split ends really make tangling worse.

One thing that's helped with brushing my daughter's fine hair is to
use a somewhat soft bristled round hairbrush -- the kind people use
when they're trying to blowdry curls. When her hair is really tangled
I half pull/half roll the brush. It allows me to be a bit more
gentle. The other thing is to attack bad tangles from the bottom up
(brush out the bottom, then move a bit higher in several steps).

Kate, ignorant foot soldier of the medical cartel
and the Bug, 4 and a half
and something brewing, 4/08

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:29:02 -0500, Rosalie B. wrote:

Sounds like an allergy rather than a head cold. A head cold doesn't
make you sneeze just one day, and colds come from viruses, and not wet
heads.

But wet heads in cold weather does make some people more suceptible to
colds from viruses. It's a lot easier to say we get colds from wet hair,
but I don't think people are being that literal when speaking.

toypup wrote:

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:29:02 -0500, Rosalie B. wrote:

Sounds like an allergy rather than a head cold. A head cold doesn't
make you sneeze just one day, and colds come from viruses, and not wet
heads.

But wet heads in cold weather does make some people more suceptible to
colds from viruses. It's a lot easier to say we get colds from wet hair,
but I don't think people are being that literal when speaking.

I don't think that is true either. There have been experiments done
where people were made cold and wet but protected from viruses and
they did not get colds. But if they were given viruses they got colds
even when they were warm and dry.

I sneeze in the morning when I get out of bed because of the
temperature change. I think this is not uncommon.

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:10:43 -0500, Rosalie B. wrote:

toypup wrote:

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:29:02 -0500, Rosalie B. wrote:

Sounds like an allergy rather than a head cold. A head cold doesn't
make you sneeze just one day, and colds come from viruses, and not wet
heads.

But wet heads in cold weather does make some people more suceptible to
colds from viruses. It's a lot easier to say we get colds from wet hair,
but I don't think people are being that literal when speaking.

I don't think that is true either. There have been experiments done
where people were made cold and wet but protected from viruses and
they did not get colds.

Yes, it's pretty much universally agreed that cold condition itself does
not directly cause a cold. Colds are directly caused by viruses.

But if they were given viruses they got colds
even when they were warm and dry.

I think more recent studies show that being cold may reduce the body's
ability to fight off a cold.