What about circumcision and pain relief for baby

I am having sons circumcision tomorrow. I had one other question.
They do not use pain killer because of swelling, is there something that the
doc can use that will not swell. I heard of a cream that they can put on to
minimize pain.

Also, why is it best practice to NOT do circumcision. I figure since my
first son is circ. I should have 2nd son also. I know they are doing the
circs now but taking less foreskin off.

I am in US.

Thanks again in advance

Troll alert!

In misc.kids.pregnancy T wrote:
: I am having sons circumcision tomorrow. I had one other question.
: They do not use pain killer because of swelling, is there something that the
: doc can use that will not swell. I heard of a cream that they can put on to
: minimize pain.

: Also, why is it best practice to NOT do circumcision. I figure since my
: first son is circ. I should have 2nd son also. I know they are doing the
: circs now but taking less foreskin off.

: I am in US.

: Thanks again in advance

no troll. I don't know why you would think that.

"Larry McMahan" wrote in message
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Troll alert!

In misc.kids.pregnancy T wrote:
: I am having sons circumcision tomorrow. I had one other question.
: They do not use pain killer because of swelling, is there something that
the
: doc can use that will not swell. I heard of a cream that they can put
on to
: minimize pain.

: Also, why is it best practice to NOT do circumcision. I figure since my
: first son is circ. I should have 2nd son also. I know they are doing
the
: circs now but taking less foreskin off.

: I am in US.

: Thanks again in advance

Dear Tanya,
In anglo-saxon countries circumcision is frowned upon.

Our religion teaches that God created us in his own image. To change it is
to criticise God.
Our science teaches that we evolved to survive and all parts of us have a
purpose, even if we do not understand them.
Personaly I believe that circumcision... no that doesn't matter what I
beleieve, I have no statistcs to back it up...
All I can say, If you are not a "Troll", please do not have your son
circumcised.



"T" wrote in message
et...
no troll. I don't know why you would think that.

"Larry McMahan" wrote in message
...
Troll alert!

In misc.kids.pregnancy T wrote:
: I am having sons circumcision tomorrow. I had one other question.
: They do not use pain killer because of swelling, is there something
that
the
: doc can use that will not swell. I heard of a cream that they can put
on to
: minimize pain.

: Also, why is it best practice to NOT do circumcision. I figure since
my
: first son is circ. I should have 2nd son also. I know they are doing
the
: circs now but taking less foreskin off.

: I am in US.

: Thanks again in advance

Hi -

Your baby should have both a topical anaesthetic (such as a spray) and
an ingested anaesthetic, whatever the doctor thinks is safe for such a
small baby. Probably tylenol. There's no reason whatsoever to perform
a circumcision without pain relief. Also be prepared for your baby to
nurse or take a bottle immediately after the procedure. (Food is very
calming.)

Whether to have the circumcision done or not is up to you, as parents.
Do what you think is best for your child.

--Beth Kevles

http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

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like me to reply.

The doc said they don't usually give the baby any anaesthetic. Is there
something I can buy over the counter and bring?

"Beth Kevles" wrote in message
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Hi -

Your baby should have both a topical anaesthetic (such as a spray) and
an ingested anaesthetic, whatever the doctor thinks is safe for such a
small baby. Probably tylenol. There's no reason whatsoever to perform
a circumcision without pain relief. Also be prepared for your baby to
nurse or take a bottle immediately after the procedure. (Food is very
calming.)

Whether to have the circumcision done or not is up to you, as parents.
Do what you think is best for your child.

--Beth Kevles

http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the
milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would
like me to reply.

"Beth Kevles" wrote in message
...
Whether to have the circumcision done or not is up to you, as parents.
Do what you think is best for your child.

I saw a TV program where a "routine cicumcision" was "cocked up" (pardon the
pun)...
They decided to turn one of the twin boys into a girl...
30 Years later he had his sex changed back. I think he now has a wife... but
no children.

In later life children may resent the mutilations inficted upon them.

P.S. This isn't another one of those "mother knows best, don't let any *man*
tell you how to raise your children" threads is it ?

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:46:57 +1300, "ChrisScaife"
wrote:

Dear Tanya,
In anglo-saxon countries circumcision is frowned upon.

Our religion teaches that God created us in his own image. To change it is
to criticise God.

Just curious... do you believe that God has a penis?

Our science teaches that we evolved to survive and all parts of us have a
purpose, even if we do not understand them.

We evolved to survive, not to thrive. Put down that cheeseburger!

PF

In anglo-saxon countries circumcision is frowned upon.

Our religion teaches that God created us in his own image. To change it is
to criticise God.

Not so sure about that. Read Gen 17:11-12.

I have actually been struggling with this same decision. We are
expecting a son. I am not circumcized, and as you have stated, it is
generally frowned upon in the US.

There are claims of some medical benefits, actually for the women.
There is a MUCH lower incidence of cervical cancer for women in
cultures of circumcision.

There is not a real good reason for the men themselves to be
circumcized, other than religous.

Jeridiah

On 12 Dec 2003 06:34:06 -0800, (Jeridiah) wrote:

....
There are claims of some medical benefits, actually for the women.
There is a MUCH lower incidence of cervical cancer for women in
cultures of circumcision.

Citations, please?

There was a study in the late 40s or early 50s that found that women
with uncircumcised husbands had a higher rate of cervical cancer that
the wives of circumcised men. But as soon as it was published, it was
widely criticized for the method used of determining the circumcision
status of the men - they had asked the women. They went back and
examined the men, corrected the figures, and discovered that there was
no correlation between circumcision status and cervical cancer. But
of course the original publication made much more of an impact than
the subsequent correction.

On the American Cancer Society page about the causes and prevention of
cervical cancer,
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/co....asp?sitearea=
there is no mention of circumcision.

Now there has been a recent study from Spain that supposedly shows
that the wives of circumcised men have a lower rate of cervical
cancer. I believe that within about two years this study will get
blown out of the water. The problem is, that virtually every
circumcised man in Spain is Moslem. With the religion comes an
obsession with cleanliness. When the figures are corrected to take
into account the confounding factor of religion, they will get the
same results in Spain as they get in the US - circumcision does not
make a difference.

--
Neal

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