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Old October 3rd 03, 03:40 AM
ColoradoSkiBum
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: I don't know if Military schools accept children with problems as severe
as
: your post indicates.

Hmmm, that's a really good point. Didn't think of that.

: If you can find a program which would be appropriate,
: it may be possible to get the school to pick up at least some of the bill,
: since apparently his current program is not meeting his needs.

Like I said we're on the last ditch effort here. If he doesn't make it out
this time then he's probably going to be sent to a "day treatment" sort of
place--IOW a mental hospital as an outpatient rather than living there all
the time. I feel so ****ing sorry for the poor kid, but I don't know what
else we can do for him.


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Old October 3rd 03, 04:08 AM
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:49:02 -0600, "ColoradoSkiBum"
wrote:

We're already on our 4th school in just over 2 years. If you want all the
details I'll be glad to post them here in a new thread, or see my post in
alt.support.step-parents.




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I wish you the best of luck. It sounds like he has had so much
emotional trauma that he can't cope.

Have you thought about trying to homeschool?


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Old October 3rd 03, 04:39 AM
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: I wish you the best of luck. It sounds like he has had so much
: emotional trauma that he can't cope.
:
: Have you thought about trying to homeschool?

He has, and it breaks my heart because he really is a neat kid. We've
actually considered homeschooling, but we don't think that would be right
for him. He *needs to learn* how to socialize with other kids. He needs to
learn how to make friends outside of our immediate neighbors. He needs to
learn how to function when we're not around to watch him and correct him.
Otherwise what happens when he's out on his own? And he's **smart**--picks
up on things very quickly--he just can't get past this emotional pile of
crap in his way so it's holding him back.
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Old October 3rd 03, 06:50 AM
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"ColoradoSkiBum" wrote in message
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: I wish you the best of luck. It sounds like he has had so much
: emotional trauma that he can't cope.
:

....

Just dropping in (work avoidence). Some of the stuff seems familiar, and
yet very foreign.

I'm an Army brat... I graduated from the the 10th school I had attended. So
the change of schools was normal for me. But you have so much more going
on.

I recognize the telling of tall tales bit. My step-sister did that after
being dragged from a multi-generational house to ours (her single mother
lived in her much older brother's house with his grown kids). It was quite
a shock to go from being the darling cute little girl in a house... to a
"middle child". One of my son's friends would also tell tales while still
part of a normal two-parent family. He seemed to like the attention... and
it showed his imagination.

Sometimes I think kids who do this should write down their stories. They
have great imaginations.

Personally... since I got a step-mother and tale-telling step-sister just
six short months afte my mother's sudden death... I was a bit screwed up. I
managed to throw my step-mother to the ground and break my step-sister's
nose. I did not adjust well -- I was 11 years old.

But what did HELP me was my step-mother finding a very good
child-psychologist for me. I learned to understand my anger. I learned I
was a worthwhile person. But it took a while. Most of 6th grade was
wasted (homework, what is homework?). It was only until 7th grade that I
learned to buckle down and be a decent person (though during that year my
step-mother did accuse me of treating animals better than people). As of
now, I am the ONLY child out of 4 kids (including my step-sister) who is on
Marriage #1!

You may need time.. and you may need to shop around for a good CHILD
psychologist.

Many many years ago I knew a woman who married a guy who a daughter from a
previous marriage. His ex-wife was not good mother-material. Apparently
she would pick their child up for the weekend visitation, andthen leave her
at her parents house while she went partying. During the first couple years
of my friend's marriage she spent many hours taking this little girl to a
therapist to deal with abandonment.

I think you need to find a good child psych (obviously not the ones you have
been exposed too) --- that might be better than a military school (though I
do see lots of ads for them in Sunset Magazine).


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Old October 3rd 03, 12:13 PM
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dragonlady wrote in message ...
In article ,
(mbajema) wrote:

dragonlady wrote in message
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In article ,
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"ColoradoSkiBum" wrote in message
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Why military school? What do you hope to get from one?
:
:
: gee, maybe discipline, manners, courtesy, respect? Things that are
: SORELY lacking in the public school system these days....

That, precisely. Do you have any idea where we might start our search?

Why not start by looking in the mirror. The aforementioned
discipline, manners, courtesy, and respect starts in the home, you
fool.

Mary

That was certainly mannerly, courteous and respectful. . .

meh



Sorry, I call it as I see it. We are talking about him and his kid, not me.

Mary


I think I'm feeling cranky today, because normally I'd just let this go.

There is a big difference between calling it like you see it, and being
rude, discourteous, and disrespectful You could have said, "those
things start at home; you have to teach them by modeling the behavior
and by expecting it. The schools can't be expected to teach what the
children don't learn at home." I can't think of a THING that is added
to that by adding "you fool" or "look in the mirror".

If you are really interested in manners and courtesy and respect, you
have to model it all the time -- not just when you are feeling positive
about someone.

meh


You know, you are right. But when I wrote that I had just read a post
of his over on alt.support.step-parents regarding his son having a
computer in his room. The kid was looking at porn a year ago, was
caught by the parents. And, yes, pre-pubescent boys do such things.
But I was kind of mad when, upon reading further, I found out the
child still has the computer in his room. Maybe you, and others here,
should go over there too and read some of his other posts. I guess I
was harsh, but it kind of ticked me off. Please accept my apologies.

Mary
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Old October 3rd 03, 03:03 PM
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I grew up in Audubon, and now live in Lansdale.

"Hillary Israeli" wrote in message
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In ,
namek wrote:

*Valley Forge M.A. is local to me, and is considered one of the finest . I

Where do you live? I'm relatively local to there, too.

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Old October 3rd 03, 03:16 PM
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:54:59 -0700, "Denise"
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Its great that he can see that military school might help him, Tracy. IIRC
he got in some fairly serious trouble, right?


Yeah, that's an understatement! For the last 18 months, he's been a guest of the
Juvenile Corrections system, but the silver lining is that he's in several
programs that are targeted at his specific problems and he's really working
hard. The change I've seen is incredible, so even though it's been hard, IMHO
it's been worth it to go down this path.


I wasn't a bad kid, really,
but I do have ADHD and my daughter has Aspberger's (I find myself thinking
that might be my actualy problem as I learn more). And Military schooling
(AJROTC in high school) and the military (I joined the delayed enlistment
program my junior year) have helped me more than I can put into words. The
rigid scheduling was a huge benefit. And being in AJROTC definitly helped
with the transition from high school to military life.


This is excellent to know! DS was dx'd as ADHD and I highly suspect ODD, but
I've also wondered about Asperger's. He also has anger issues. While it's been
difficult having him gone, for him, it's been exactly what he needed. The
structure has allowed him to get back on track with his schoolwork (he's back on
honor roll) and I've seen him mature quite a bit.

The schedule there is extremely rigid and he's come to understand that this is
something that *helps* him keep himself in control and allows him to do his best
at so many things. I think this is why military school is attractive to him --
and the Army later. I suspect that he might be a career military man, which I
totally support. If it means that he's going to make something of himself and be
happy, more power to him.


Tracy
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and they're still getting in!
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Old October 3rd 03, 03:22 PM
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:09:23 -0500, "Donna Metler"
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I don't know what options you have as far as high schools in the area, but
some participate in the JROTC program, and it provides many of the same
experiences. JROTC cadets also have an advantage for ROTC scholarships and
military appointments, and can get advanced placement credit for college
ROTC courses.


Right now, he's at one of the Juvenile Correctional Centers that doesn't have
JROTC, which is a shame because he was quite interested in getting into that.
He's applied for a transfer back to where he was before, which does have JROTC.
If they let him transfer, I know he'll be first in line to sign up for JROTC.

In most districts, if your local high school doesn't have a program and
another in the city does, its considered a valid reason for a choice
transfer.


Unfortunately, around here, I'm fairly sure there are no schools with JROTC --
although there's a military-style day school right downtown. The thing is that
he wants the structure all day long (and I guess all night long, too).

The JROTC commandants I've known have generally been very good-retired
military officers who have gotten additional training and experience in
teaching children-and generally they're great role models.


I think for some people JROTC, ROTC and the military are the perfect places. DS
is one of those people because he thrives when his entire day is structured. I
hate to admit it, but I used to not want him to go into the military because I
thought he could make something "more" of himself, but now I see how
enthusiastic he is and know that he will be able to do more in the military than
out in the civilian world.



Tracy
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and they're still getting in!
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