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Sarah Vaughan wrote:
In message , Briar Rabbit writes [...] I've always protected myself against HPV and other infections by making sure the men I've been with have used condoms, which is a much more effective way. Why should I expect them to get circumcised? How many men would that be Sarah? Rather more than you've experienced, I believe. But Sarah, dear, using a condom is not "sex as nature intended it". How are supposed to enjoy the slip sliding effect of the foreskin if it is contrained in a condom? I guess the benefit is that it contains the stink though ;-) Actually it is all about facts. Nope. For you, it's all about being anti-foreskin. Sarah Sarah it was established from the Williamson/Willianson survey results that 2% of women have a foreskin fetish in that they are only interested in a foreskin for sex and do not really care about the man. You know the sort. The type who hangs around truck stops waiting for an big, dirty uncircumcised trucker to ravish her in his truck. You be one of those then? WOMEN'S PREFERENCES FOR PENILE CIRCUMCISION IN SEXUAL PARTNERS http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...ence/message/4 or WOMEN'S PREFERENCES FOR PENILE CIRCUMCISION IN SEXUAL PARTNERS http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unasha...rc/message/413 |
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Sarah Vaughan wrote:
Briar Rabbit wrote: So you have to have "experience" with an adequate sample size otherwise your opinion isn't worth diddley squat. To which Sarah Vaughan replied: I shall look forward to hearing your sample size, in that case. ;-) To which Briar Rabbit, having carefully snipped his original comment as restored above, wrote: I don't have a sample size So I guess that clears _that_ one up, then. ;-) Sarah And you sample size was? |
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Sarah Vaughan wrote:
In message , Briar Rabbit writes This is what you need to know about the people who hang weights from the dicks to stretch themselves a sort of foreskin. Sad and pathetic. Restoration Seekers ========================== Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 10, No.4, 1981 Prepuce Restoration Seekers: Psychiatric Aspects Paul C. Mohl, M.D.I,2 , Russel Adams, Ph.D.,3 Donald M. Greer, M.D.,4 and Kathy A. Sheley, Ph.D. snip Ah, yes, the old trick. Find a few people amongst the group you want to ridicule who clearly _do_ have some sort of psychological problem - after all, you can guarantee there'll be some, since there's no group existing that's going to be immune to being joined by people who happen to have pre-existing problems. Then, try to imply - or to state straight out - that these people are representative of the entire group. It's a well-known trick. People used to try it - probably still do, for that matter - to make it seem that gay people were all psychologically twisted. Before that, I believe they tried it to make it seem that women who wanted a career other than housewifery were psychological freaks. Before that, presumably they tried it to prove something else. And, of course, it doesn't prove a thing. Except in the minds of people who want it to. Sarah Now why am I not surprised that you state that it doesn't prove a thing? Heh heh heh I suppose this must apply to people who want to believe that ;-) |
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In message , Briar Rabbit
writes Sarah Vaughan wrote: In message , Briar Rabbit writes [...] I've always protected myself against HPV and other infections by making sure the men I've been with have used condoms, which is a much more effective way. Why should I expect them to get circumcised? How many men would that be Sarah? Rather more than you've experienced, I believe. But Sarah, dear, using a condom is not "sex as nature intended it". And your problem with that would be....? How are supposed to enjoy the slip sliding effect of the foreskin if it is contrained in a condom? No idea, and don't particularly care, since protecting myself against infection is more important to me than whether or not a man wants a slip-sliding effect. My view, in the days when I was still single, was that any potential sexual partner of mine could decide for himself whether he preferred sex with a condom or no sex - fine by me either way, but those were the options. BTW, I never met any who decided they preferred the latter. ;-) [...] Sarah it was established from the Williamson/Willianson survey results that 2% of women have a foreskin fetish in that they are only interested in a foreskin for sex and do not really care about the man. LOL! You just can't stop inventing things that that survey never said, can you? (Oh, and BTW - please don't bother simply regurgitating the whole thing again with a "Well, you read it for yourself, then." I have, as you well know. And it doesn't say anything about 2% of women being only interested in a foreskin and not caring about the man, as you well know. Not that I can see what it would matter if it did, but it doesn't, and lying about what it says is downright silly.) You know the sort. The type who hangs around truck stops waiting for an big, dirty uncircumcised trucker to ravish her in his truck. You be one of those then? I hope it won't put too much of a crimp in your fantasies to be told that the answer's no. Sarah -- "I once requested an urgent admission for a homeopath who had become depressed and taken a massive underdose" - Phil Peverley |
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In message , Briar Rabbit
writes Sarah Vaughan wrote: Briar Rabbit wrote: So you have to have "experience" with an adequate sample size otherwise your opinion isn't worth diddley squat. To which Sarah Vaughan replied: I shall look forward to hearing your sample size, in that case. To which Briar Rabbit, having carefully snipped his original comment as restored above, wrote: I don't have a sample size So I guess that clears _that_ one up, then. ;-) Sarah And you sample size was? Somewhat larger than yours. Does that mean that you think my opinion is closer to meaning something than yours, or does it just mean that you don't think either of our opinions are worth diddley-squat? Let me guess - it actually means that you don't think sample size amounts to a damn thing. What you think is that an opinion that doesn't agree with yours isn't worth diddley-squat, and is probably related to sexual fetishes. Sarah -- "I once requested an urgent admission for a homeopath who had become depressed and taken a massive underdose" - Phil Peverley |
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In message , Briar Rabbit
writes Sarah Vaughan wrote: In message , Briar Rabbit writes This is what you need to know about the people who hang weights from the dicks to stretch themselves a sort of foreskin. Sad and pathetic. Restoration Seekers ========================== Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 10, No.4, 1981 Prepuce Restoration Seekers: Psychiatric Aspects Paul C. Mohl, M.D.I,2 , Russel Adams, Ph.D.,3 Donald M. Greer, M.D.,4 and Kathy A. Sheley, Ph.D. snip Ah, yes, the old trick. Find a few people amongst the group you want to ridicule who clearly _do_ have some sort of psychological problem - after all, you can guarantee there'll be some, since there's no group existing that's going to be immune to being joined by people who happen to have pre-existing problems. Then, try to imply - or to state straight out - that these people are representative of the entire group. It's a well-known trick. People used to try it - probably still do, for that matter - to make it seem that gay people were all psychologically twisted. Before that, I believe they tried it to make it seem that women who wanted a career other than housewifery were psychological freaks. Before that, presumably they tried it to prove something else. And, of course, it doesn't prove a thing. Except in the minds of people who want it to. Sarah Now why am I not surprised that you state that it doesn't prove a thing? [...] Because you've seen enough of my posts to know that I'm not dim enough to fall for propaganda smokescreens. Thank you. Sarah -- "I once requested an urgent admission for a homeopath who had become depressed and taken a massive underdose" - Phil Peverley |
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Sarah, I would refer you and Briar to the following groups about this topic:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circumcision_pro_or_con_ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mothersandcircumcision http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circumcisedfamilyshow http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mother...siondiscussion http://groups.yahoo.com/group/autocircumcision http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circ_report Tim Sarah Vaughan wrote in message ... In message , Briar Rabbit writes Sarah Vaughan wrote: In message , Briar Rabbit writes This is what you need to know about the people who hang weights from the dicks to stretch themselves a sort of foreskin. Sad and pathetic. Restoration Seekers ========================== Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 10, No.4, 1981 Prepuce Restoration Seekers: Psychiatric Aspects Paul C. Mohl, M.D.I,2 , Russel Adams, Ph.D.,3 Donald M. Greer, M.D.,4 and Kathy A. Sheley, Ph.D. snip Ah, yes, the old trick. Find a few people amongst the group you want to ridicule who clearly _do_ have some sort of psychological problem - after all, you can guarantee there'll be some, since there's no group existing that's going to be immune to being joined by people who happen to have pre-existing problems. Then, try to imply - or to state straight out - that these people are representative of the entire group. It's a well-known trick. People used to try it - probably still do, for that matter - to make it seem that gay people were all psychologically twisted. Before that, I believe they tried it to make it seem that women who wanted a career other than housewifery were psychological freaks. Before that, presumably they tried it to prove something else. And, of course, it doesn't prove a thing. Except in the minds of people who want it to. Sarah Now why am I not surprised that you state that it doesn't prove a thing? [...] Because you've seen enough of my posts to know that I'm not dim enough to fall for propaganda smokescreens. Thank you. Sarah |
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In message , Tim
Deringer writes Sarah, I would refer you and Briar to the following groups about this topic: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circum...://groups.yaho o.com/group/mothersandcircumcisionhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/circumci sedfamilyshowhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/mothersforumforcircumcisiondi scussion http://groups.yahoo.com/group/autocircumcision http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circ_report grin Was that your tactful way of asking us to get our debate off the misc.kids groups? All the best, Sarah -- "I once requested an urgent admission for a homeopath who had become depressed and taken a massive underdose" - Phil Peverley |
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