deadbeat and enabler list (another thread that went off topic)

"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in message
news:79c5f5f3cb454@uwe...
whatamess wrote:
Why is the DBP crew in every group, discussion, topic, and thread
when
it
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]

- Show quoted text -

Why exactly is it that women like Ileana feel that it's only the MAN's
responsibility
to take care of the children financially? It's funny because it's
pretty darn
obvious that you custodial mothers (not all, just some like Ileana)
want
to PUNISH the dad's for having slept with them and getting them
pregnant...
it's like because they were PUNISHED by having to take care of a
child,
they feel they should PUNISH the ex and make him pay...If your child
is such a drain on you, why did you have him? If he's such a drain on
you,
why don't you give him to the father? Because you want to control
everyone's
life...How sad that you feelt that YOUR sacrifice to raise your kid
means
that someone should pay you for it...Lousy excuse for women...very
sick.
If you are referring to me, you have spelled my name wrong.
My ex resides in my house, so you are wrong. I work and provide for both
my
child and my ex, so you are wrong again (not surprised).
I do not want to punish my ex, I just want him out of my house, and
supporting himself.

Further more, why ask a question if you and your twisted mind have already
devised a crazed answer?
Why would you assume anything about me when you don't even know me or my
situation?
Why are YOU such a mess?
The truth is guys, weather you want to admit it, or live a lie, custody
usually goes to the mother because the father can not and will not provide
a
stable, nurturing environment for the children. If any of those men could
prove the mother to be unfit, then the child will go to the father (or in
those cases the lesser of two evils). 1/52 of You are mad because your
child's mother was fit, and you could not prove otherwise. Be honest,
would
you be mad if the shoe was on the other foot?

That is simply not true, Illiana. And, unless you have data to back up what
you are saying, you should not post such things! Children go to their
mothers most of the time because "children and mothers" is the social norm.
Moms are seen as the caretakers and dads as the providers, even if dad
provides the majority of the care.It's hard to overcome this type of social
prejudgement. Although shared custody in cases of divorce is being advocated
much more these days. In cases of out of wedlock children, children are
with their mothers because they are born to the mother, and the whole
proof-of-paternity-I want-to-be-in-my-child's-life thing takes
time--meanwhile, baby has been with mom the whole time, and status quo is
the reason used to keep custody with mom. It has nothing to do with
parenting skills, unless something really BIG is proved.

As for being punished, maybe your ex had a good reason.

Why would any person feel that they had the right to punish a man because he
does not live up to their expectations? You cannot be saying that once a
woman has a child with a man, she is rightly in the position of judge and
jury on the subject of his life choices.

"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in

The truth is guys, weather you want to admit it, or live a lie, custody
usually goes to the mother because the father can not and will not provide
a
stable, nurturing environment for the children.

It's pointless withyou to dig up all the facts, but why do so many loving
nurturing mothers butcher their children?

teachrmama wrote:
"Gini" wrote in

[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
I don't think that person called the kid that. I think she said the father
did. You need to share the whole sentence, not just the parts YOU like.

But, Iliana, Bob did not use the word about anyone. Out of curiosity, he
looked it up to see what it meant. I had never heard the term, either.
I did not say he used it. He said if I even thought about using that word I'd
be a racist.
I just pointed out that if you want to use that word, or think about using it,
you are.
I did not say he was one, or that he does use it.

--
Message posted via http://www.familykb.com

DB wrote:
than virtues. The most tragic outcome is the creation of an entire
generation of girls who are taught they are more
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
those we have seen deluging ACS from "FamilyKB" with the whining mantra
of "Please help me! He's sooo bad and I need rescued,"

Anyone can rant, but not everyone speaks the truth. You have the ranting
correct, now try the truth.

The truth is, you can't fend for yourself!
You even admitted you can't get rid of your husband, so you want the
government to do it for you!
Where did I say I wanted the Government to do it for me. I just said the
judge ruled that he owned 1/2 of the house. It is my ex-husband.

--
Message posted via FamilyKB.com
http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1

teachrmama wrote:
Why is the DBP crew in every group, discussion, topic, and thread
when
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
would
you be mad if the shoe was on the other foot?

That is simply not true, Illiana. And, unless you have data to back up what
you are saying, you should not post such things! Children go to their
mothers most of the time because "children and mothers" is the social norm.
Moms are seen as the caretakers and dads as the providers, even if dad
provides the majority of the care.It's hard to overcome this type of social
prejudgement. Although shared custody in cases of divorce is being advocated
much more these days. In cases of out of wedlock children, children are
with their mothers because they are born to the mother, and the whole
proof-of-paternity-I want-to-be-in-my-child's-life thing takes
time--meanwhile, baby has been with mom the whole time, and status quo is
the reason used to keep custody with mom. It has nothing to do with
parenting skills, unless something really BIG is proved.

As for being punished, maybe your ex had a good reason.

Why would any person feel that they had the right to punish a man because he
does not live up to their expectations? You cannot be saying that once a
woman has a child with a man, she is rightly in the position of judge and
jury on the subject of his life choices.
Tell that to the judge that gave the two children to the ex-HUSBAND. Britney
Spears, also known as B.S lost custody of her son's to her ex-husband because
he was able to prove she was un-fit as a mother. It is all over the
newspapers, everywhere, around the world.
Proof of paternity takes 6 to 8 weeks, and I know this for a FACT. That is
not a lot of time, and if the child is an infant, it would be safe to assume
the mother is breast feeding, so the infant does need to be with her.

--
Message posted via FamilyKB.com
http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1

DB wrote:
"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in

The truth is guys, weather you want to admit it, or live a lie, custody
usually goes to the mother because the father can not and will not provide
a
stable, nurturing environment for the children.

It's pointless withyou to dig up all the facts, but why do so many loving
nurturing mothers butcher their children?
For the same reasons many loving nurturing fathers butcher, and rape their
son's and daughters.

--
Message posted via FamilyKB.com
http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1

teachrmama wrote:
"whatamess" wrote
...............................
[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
Anyone can rant, but not everyone speaks the truth. You have the ranting
correct, now try the truth.

Please point out what was not true in this post.
The whole thing, except where she said it is a rant. It is NOT fact, it is
her opinion that she is expressing, and she is inadvertantly addressing all
females. So it is her opinion. You always ask me "where is your proof?"
Where is hers that all women think, and do these things she claims.
Show me where her opinion ends, and fact begins if you feel I am wrong.

--
Message posted via FamilyKB.com
http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1

"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in


The truth is, you can't fend for yourself!
You even admitted you can't get rid of your husband, so you want the
government to do it for you!

Where did I say I wanted the Government to do it for me. I just said the
judge ruled that he owned 1/2 of the house. It is my ex-husband.


Are you not the one that wants him out of the house?

teachrmama wrote:
Why is the DBP crew in every group, discussion, topic, and thread
when
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
would
you be mad if the shoe was on the other foot?

That is simply not true, Illiana. And, unless you have data to back up what
you are saying, you should not post such things! Children go to their
mothers most of the time because "children and mothers" is the social norm.
Moms are seen as the caretakers and dads as the providers, even if dad
provides the majority of the care.It's hard to overcome this type of social
prejudgement. Although shared custody in cases of divorce is being advocated
much more these days. In cases of out of wedlock children, children are
with their mothers because they are born to the mother, and the whole
proof-of-paternity-I want-to-be-in-my-child's-life thing takes
time--meanwhile, baby has been with mom the whole time, and status quo is
the reason used to keep custody with mom. It has nothing to do with
parenting skills, unless something really BIG is proved.

As for being punished, maybe your ex had a good reason.

Why would any person feel that they had the right to punish a man because he
does not live up to their expectations? You cannot be saying that once a
woman has a child with a man, she is rightly in the position of judge and
jury on the subject of his life choices.

Do you deny that if the non-custodial parents were the custodial parents they
would not be complaining, or asking for child support?

--
Message posted via FamilyKB.com
http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1

"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in

It's pointless withyou to dig up all the facts, but why do so many loving
nurturing mothers butcher their children?

For the same reasons many loving nurturing fathers butcher, and rape their
son's and daughters.

When is the last time a father drowned his two daughters in a bath tub?