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The right to abandon your child (aka - Roe v. Wade for Men)



 
 
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Old March 11th 06, 05:21 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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"tonita" wrote in

consequences. Don't have sex with someone you wouldn't want to become
a parent with.


Ever hear of Beer?

If only we could all live in a perfect world and be as smart as you!

So is it right to sentence a man to death if is can't pay the extortionate
CS rates?


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Old March 11th 06, 05:32 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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"tonita" wrote in

consequences. Don't have sex with someone you wouldn't want to become
a parent with.


Ever hear of Beer?

If only we could all live in a perfect world and be as smart as you!

So is it right to sentence a man to death if is can't pay the extortionate
CS rates?


Responsible people don't drink so much beer that they have irresponsible
sex.


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Old March 11th 06, 06:06 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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I think we're missing the point of this. What is being asked of the
court is a man who had no interest in fathering and parenting a child
was duped by a woman who is forcing this man into parenting a child via
child support. The woman named in the suit had a choice; She could have
aborted the pregnancy, put the child up for adoption, or in this case,
kept the baby. The man however, had no choice. He was ordered by the
court to parent the child via child support. This, according to the
suit, is unconstitutional. I agree with this argument. The other
thoughts or opinions that have been discussed so far here are
irrelevant. If the woman has a choice, so should the man

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Old March 11th 06, 07:29 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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R said
I think we're missing the point of this. What is being asked of the
court is a man who had no interest in fathering and parenting a child
was duped by a woman who is forcing this man into parenting a child via
child support. The woman named in the suit had a choice; She could have
aborted the pregnancy, put the child up for adoption, or in this case,
kept the baby. The man however, had no choice. He was ordered by the
court to parent the child via child support. This, according to the
suit, is unconstitutional. I agree with this argument. The other
thoughts or opinions that have been discussed so far here are
irrelevant. If the woman has a choice, so should the man


Seems to me that the man made a choice as well - women don't generally
become pregnant all by themselves.


Casey
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Old March 11th 06, 07:31 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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"R" wrote in message
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I think we're missing the point of this. What is being asked of the
court is a man who had no interest in fathering and parenting a child
was duped by a woman who is forcing this man into parenting a child via
child support.


Paying "child support" says NOTHING about parenting any child.

The woman named in the suit had a choice; She could have
aborted the pregnancy, put the child up for adoption, or in this case,
kept the baby. The man however, had no choice. He was ordered by the
court to parent the child via child support. This, according to the
suit, is unconstitutional. I agree with this argument. The other
thoughts or opinions that have been discussed so far here are
irrelevant. If the woman has a choice, so should the man


Not only is she in the driver's seat when it comes to post-conception choice
for BOTH of them, but she is also in the driver's seat when it comes to who
gets to spend BOTH their incomes. Sounds fair to me.




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Old March 11th 06, 07:35 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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R wrote:
I think we're missing the point of this. What is being asked of the
court is a man who had no interest in fathering and parenting a child
was duped by a woman who is forcing this man into parenting a child via
child support. The woman named in the suit had a choice; She could have
aborted the pregnancy, put the child up for adoption, or in this case,
kept the baby. The man however, had no choice. He was ordered by the
court to parent the child via child support. This, according to the
suit, is unconstitutional. I agree with this argument. The other
thoughts or opinions that have been discussed so far here are
irrelevant. If the woman has a choice, so should the man


I agree with R here. If the woman does have a choice.. then so
should the man. However the only large problem I can see here is that
ROE vs WADE was never ment to be used as the ability to force men in
CS.

R vs W was never meant to be anything more then declaring that women
have the right to choose for themselves if an operation can be
conducted on them. It has nothing to do with Parental rights... It has
nothing to do deciding paternity ect.. all the way down the line.

So I applaud the efforts of such a case. However I don't think it
will honestly have much of an effect as the Courts will probably come
up with a ruling that will clarify such things. And that stuff like CS
has be decided in the Legislature, not the courts.

To me the only way we can protect my fellow men from such an unfair
thing at this juncture in the game is education. Start teaching our
men from an early age. Drill it into them that these women are evil,
and want something from you. And we as men need to protect our sperm
like it's a rare comdity.

SpiderHam77

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Old March 11th 06, 09:06 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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"Casey" wrote in message
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R said
I think we're missing the point of this. What is being asked of the
court is a man who had no interest in fathering and parenting a child
was duped by a woman who is forcing this man into parenting a child via
child support. The woman named in the suit had a choice; She could have
aborted the pregnancy, put the child up for adoption, or in this case,
kept the baby. The man however, had no choice. He was ordered by the
court to parent the child via child support. This, according to the
suit, is unconstitutional. I agree with this argument. The other
thoughts or opinions that have been discussed so far here are
irrelevant. If the woman has a choice, so should the man


Seems to me that the man made a choice as well - women don't generally
become pregnant all by themselves.


Casey



It is stated in this case that the man was told the women he was banging
couldn't get pregnant. So he made a choice to have sex with someone he
couldn't get knocked up. A pretty good choice, to bad it back fired.


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Old March 11th 06, 09:10 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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Seems to me that the man made a choice as well - women don't generally
become pregnant all by themselves.


THat's true but, beyond the scope of this discussion AND this suit as
well.

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Old March 11th 06, 09:41 PM posted to alt.mens-rights,alt.child-support,alt.support.divorce
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"Joy" ) spouts misandry:
"DB" wrote in message
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"tonita" wrote in

consequences. Don't have sex with someone you wouldn't want to become
a parent with.


Ever hear of Beer?

If only we could all live in a perfect world and be as smart as you!

So is it right to sentence a man to death if is can't pay the extortionate
CS rates?


Responsible people don't drink so much beer that they have irresponsible
sex.


Responsible people make sure that they have a *willing* co-parent,
*before* whelping a sprog.

Thus, by *your* standard, ALL single-by-CHOICE mommies are unfit.

Thanks for making that fact clear !

Andre

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Old March 11th 06, 09:47 PM posted to alt.mens-rights,alt.child-support,alt.support.divorce,soc.men
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Casey ) demands special rights for women:
R said
I think we're missing the point of this. What is being asked of the
court is a man who had no interest in fathering and parenting a child
was duped by a woman who is forcing this man into parenting a child via
child support. The woman named in the suit had a choice; She could have
aborted the pregnancy, put the child up for adoption, or in this case,
kept the baby. The man however, had no choice. He was ordered by the
court to parent the child via child support. This, according to the
suit, is unconstitutional. I agree with this argument. The other
thoughts or opinions that have been discussed so far here are
irrelevant. If the woman has a choice, so should the man.


Exactly right, R. Rights for all, not just right for those with a
uterus...

Seems to me that the man made a choice as well - women don't generally
become pregnant all by themselves.


That is exactly the case *against* ALL women's-only POST-coital choices.

Please notify your local legislative representatives that, as you
oppose post coital choice for men, you also oppose ALL post coital
choices for women.

Petard. Hoist. You. laughs

" Men are people who deserve equal rights, too ? " gasped the annoyed
and incredulous WomenFirster.

Rights for all, or rights for none. All else is special interest group
bigotry.

Andre


 




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