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aw come on now.....anyone could have made this tape. There must be
other tapes made of other parents spanking their children to compare it to. htmlbody bgcolor="black" text="white"/html |
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wrote: aw come on now.....anyone could have made this tape. Of course. "Anyone" did just that. Are you suggesting anything in particular about "this" tape? There must be other tapes made of other parents spanking their children to compare it to. I find it a bit of a reach to presume that there are such tapes floating around. But if you feel there are, and there "must be," then a great thing for you to do would be to find them and find a way to post them. Now would it? What do you think of the actual tape presented? Do you find it believable, for instance? Do you think, if it's a real tape, the child is faking her fear, or is it real fear? If you were spanked as a child how does it compare to your own experiences? Do you trust your memory to be accurate, given the likelihood of pain and fear on your part? Thanks for your contribution and I'd love to discuss this and other CP issues with you. 0:- |
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http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/ReportCard.htm
Those who have traumatic issues about corporal punishment in childhood should use discretion. This sound file can be extremely upsetting. Chris |
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Links available at:
http://www.nospank.net/news5.htm # FLORIDA - Paddling Isn't Funny, Letter to the Sun-Sentinel from Jordan Riak, April 13, 2005 # ARKANSAS - Man in spanking case gets suspended sentence , Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, April 5, 2005 # ARKANSAS - Corporal Punishment Ineffective, Administrators Say -- Most Districts Allow Paddling But Don't Use It, By Matt McGowan, The Morning News, April 2, 2005 # TEXAS - Dallas School District: Paddling out, uniforms in, By Toya Lynn Stewart, Dallas Morning News, March 31, 2005 # GENEVA - Ramadan calls for a moratorium on corporal punishment, The Muslim News, March 30, 2005 # Members of the pro-corporal punishment scientific community -- all four of them -- are jubilant today, Source: Ananova.com, March 29, 2005 # MISSISSIPPI - One Toxic Middle School in Mississippi, Letter from a Substitute Teacher to Project NoSpank, March 22, 2005 # L MISSOURI - Boonville looks to sell old academy, By Steve Rock, The Kansas City Star, March 21, 2005 # PENNSYLVANIA - State school board suggests ban on corporal punishment, By Gabrielle Banks, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, March 18, 2005 # US - To paddle or not to paddle? It's still not clear in US schools., By Stacy A. Teicher, The Christian Science Monitor, March 17, 2005 # CANADA - A Korean father's lesson on raising cane, By Petti Fong, Globe and Mail, March 12, 2005 # MISSOURI - Around the Ozarks: Nixa, Missouri Board votes to to end corporal punishment, News Leader, March 12, 2005 # NORTH CAROLINA - Union school board flunks, EDITORIAL Charlotte Observer, March 12, 2005 # TEXAS - Texas Rep. Alma Allen's HB 2413, a bill to ban corporal punishment in Texas schools, March 11, 2005 # CANADA - Letter to Project NoSpank from Corine Robertshaw of Repeal 43 Committee, March 11, 2005 # ILLINOIS - School orders mom to spank son, or else, By Diane Rado, Chicago Tribune, March 6, 2005 # Jordan Riak's letter to the Detroit News, about Nolan Finley's article, March 6, 2005 # Paddles might work better in classrooms than Commandments, By Nolan Finley, Detroit News, March 6, 2005 # L UTAH - Group Seeks Probe Into Boading School, By The Associated Press, KSL TV, March 6, 2005 # NORTH CAROLINA - Board to mull corporal punishment, By John Tompkins - Monroe, Enquirer-Journal, March 6, 2005 # MISSOURI - Man [beats and bruises child with belt at school] Is Accused Of Shoving Counselor At His Son's School, By Susan Weich, Post-Dispatch, March 5, 2005 |
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Sounds like somebody got a spanking fetish. ;-) Doan On 16 Apr 2005, Chris wrote: http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/ReportCard.htm Those who have traumatic issues about corporal punishment in childhood should use discretion. This sound file can be extremely upsetting. Chris |
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....this is such an old tape, it should go into the archives......sounds
like a mother just doing her "duty" as a mother, caring for her child..... htmlbody bgcolor="black" text="white"/html |
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Greegor wrote:
Golly, I WONDER why Doan's question was less pressing? The one where he pointed out that LaVonne was spanked and asked her what she learned? Are you a violent, out of control person, LaVonne? Did you need years of expensive THERAPY to understand why you were spanked? Or were you so unable to process the reasons why you were spanked that this is why you turned OPPOSITIONAL and defiant in your view of the spankings you received? I seem to recall that there is small percentage of kids who never quite "get" why they actually deserved a spanking for their actions. These few kids are of particular interest because of the suspicion that they are the few who have some sort of cognitive problems and may well become SOCIOPATHS. In other words, the small percentage of kids who fail to recognize the rationale for their spankings have some serious, possibly even dangerous pathologies which may worsen. Certainly, if a kid develops such contempt for their parent when it comes to punishment, it does not bode well for their adult lives and the punishments from police and courts. I find it odd that Kane claims much expertise in psychology yet hasn't mentioned this. Perhaps because it is inconvenient to his "cause"? |
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Greegor wrote: Greegor wrote: Golly, I WONDER why Doan's question was less pressing? Than what? The one where he pointed out that LaVonne was spanked and asked her what she learned? LaVonne is required to answer the dancing monkey? Are you a violent, out of control person, LaVonne? Does she appear to be? Or is that insinuation? Did you need years of expensive THERAPY to understand why you were spanked? Did you? If so, trust me, it failed. Ask for your money back. Or were you so unable to process the reasons why you were spanked that this is why you turned OPPOSITIONAL and defiant in your view of the spankings you received? Why would she be unable to process them? I don't see her expressing a need to hit children...that's a sure sign of inability to process childhood trauma visited by parents. Some people it locks up so they become abusive and try to pass it off under codes, euphonisms such as "spanking" and "discipline." I seem to recall that there is small percentage of kids who never quite "get" why they actually deserved a spanking for their actions. Actually it's not a "small percentage." The dysfunctions we see in whole societies are often very much tied to the treatment the citizens had as children. We see rather a lot of compensatory reactions in adult behaviors. Like punishing children for natural bodily functions that are not fully in the control of the child yet. Facts don't seem to impact the compensatory needs of these folks that hit children. These few kids are of particular interest because of the suspicion that they are the few who have some sort of cognitive problems and may well become SOCIOPATHS. Do you really want to do there? In other words, the small percentage of kids who fail to recognize the rationale for their spankings have some serious, possibly even dangerous pathologies which may worsen. Yes, you do. Okay. How is it you punished a little girl for wetting herself...at six or seven, when such functions are often easily upset by stressful life events? Hell, little kids sometimes lose bladder control because of the FUN they are having. Yet you felt a need to punish. Hmmm... Now, a few years later, you continue to behave in ways that are certain to keep the state from returning the child to her mother. I'm not sure if that reaches, clinically, the level of dangerous pathology, but then there is the outing of people into newsgroups where death threats have been made against similar people. Now that just might rise to the level of pathology, and dangerous. Certainly, if a kid develops such contempt for their parent when it comes to punishment, it does not bode well for their adult lives and the punishments from police and courts. Nearly all kids that are physically punished develop such contempt. They simpley, because of the risk involved, hide it. In time, because slipping and displaying it has resulted in more pain, they even hide it from themselves, stuffing it down so it can't up and endanger them....and then comes the compensatory behaviors. I find it odd that Kane claims much expertise in psychology yet hasn't mentioned this. Well, I couldn't because you have it wrong. Why would I mentioned such serious compesatory errors. A logic turned totally on its head as you present. Perhaps because it is inconvenient to his "cause"? No, because it's the ignorant self deluding rationalization of a very sick little boy that hasn't gotten over HIS being spanked, or other betrayals by his parents or caregivers, and shows it in his defiant lies about authority, and in babbling about the need to reduce that authority to impotence I've only heard before in the mentally ill, and or prisoners in jail, or those out of those places temporarily. I forget. Did you do time on that Domestic Abuse conviction...or wasn't it more than one? I forget. Help me out here. The next thing you know, you'll be threatening to sue the state for giving you a three year plus vacation at the expense of a little girl's lossing the association of her mother, and by the mother's support of you. And Lisa thinks the two of you are hero's of the revolution. Interesting. I wonder if she was spanked. It can also create an emotional neediness that attracts leeches, emotional and otherwise. 0:- Smile, you're on candid camera. |
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