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Old November 6th 06, 08:54 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Default TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO

http://www.nccpr.org/reports/blog.htm
October 2, 2006
TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO
The media assault on Donna Trevino, the overwhelmed single mother in
Butler County, Ohio, has gotten even uglier.
Trevino's three children were taken from her in May. (See the
September 11 Blog, Town Without Pity below) One of the children, Marcus
Fiesel, allegedly was tied up and locked in a stifling closet by his
foster parents, while they went to a family reunion. When they returned
and found Marcus dead, the foster mother allegedly concocted a story
that the boy had disappeared; the foster father allegedly burned the
body.
There has never been even an allegation that Donna Trevino abused any
of her children. Rather, this single mother with very little education,
who had run away from an allegedly abusive home herself at age 13,
couldn't cope with caring for three young children, one of whom,
Marcus, may have been autistic.
As news organizations have pried loose court records on the case,
they've found that, at one hearing, Trevino had given up. She was
willing to put Marcus up for adoption.
Often, the only time an impoverished birth mother can get a sympathetic
story from local media is when she makes such a decision. Then,
suddenly, she becomes a hero because she "loved the child enough to
give him up" - meaning, of course, let him be taken forever from
people like them and be handed over to people like us.
But Donna Trevino couldn't even catch that much of a break. Because,
remember, she dared to expect middle-class justice - - she filed a
wrongful death suit.
The excerpts from hearing transcripts included in news accounts offer
no clue as to why Trevino at one point was ready to surrender Marcus.
To me the most reasonable hypothesis is that she was so overwhelmed by
the demands of caring for him - with no help from Butler County -
that she did, indeed, decide he would do better elsewhere.
But a Blog, like an editorial, is a proper place to hypothesize. A news
story is not. And those who prefer their news stories straight can
check out the Middletown Journal's account
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/09/27/ddn092706trevino.html,
reprinted in the co-owned Dayton Daily News, under the headline
"Marcus' mom had history with court."
But the Cincinnati Enquirer couldn't bring itself to settle for
facts. They spun the story
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060926/NEWS01/609260380
to make it fit the paper's "master narrative" - that Trevino is
a rotten mother who now just wants to cash in on her son's death,
aided and abetted by greedy lawyers.
"Birth mom didn't want Marcus," said the Enquirer headline,
"Lawyer knew, but filed suit for loss of love," said the subhead.
Reporters don't write their own headlines, but in this case the
Enquirer copy desk aptly summed up the story, which began as follows:
"The birth mother who sued Butler County for $5 million over her
son's death in foster care had no intention of reuniting with the boy,
according to court records The Enquirer obtained Monday. In addition,
the attorney who stands to gain millions in the civil case if the case
is successful knew that."
The story goes on: "[Butler County] Commissioner Mike Fox offered
harsh criticism for [Trevino's lawyer's] handling of the lawsuit.
'This shows predatory lawyering at its worst,' he said. 'These
are the types of actions that give lawyers a bad name.'"
No other point of view made it into the story.
It all reminds me of a story I read in the Orlando Sentinel about 17
years ago, when I was writing my book about child welfare, Wounded
Innocents. The story was about a mother in Florida who desperately
loved her two children, four-year-old Lisa and two-year-old Amanda, but
was homeless. Fearing that the state would take them away, she
"voluntarily" surrendered them to the state, at first temporarily.
"She figured giving the kids up for temporary custody was her best
chance of keeping them," The Sentinel reported. Lisa and Amanda's
mother visited them at the church day care facility every day. By fall
she was talking to a church worker about giving the girls up for
adoption. Because, the church worker said, she thought that "was going
to be better for them than anything she could ever give to them. She
did love the girls. If she could give them up, they could be taken care
of, sent to college." The girls said their mother
"'had water in her eyes' when she said goodbye. The mother left a
necklace - a chain with a big heart and two little ones - behind as a
remembrance. She told Lisa to tell Amanda that she loved her. And she
left."
The headline on this particular story was "Homeless with children:
Poverty and despair are forcing some parents to give up their kids." Of
course, had the story run in the Cincinnati Enquirer, I'm sure it would
have had a different headline. Probably something like "Birth Mom
didn't want Lisa, Amanda."

  #2  
Old November 6th 06, 09:21 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
spd
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Default TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO


Greegor wrote:
http://www.nccpr.org/reports/blog.htm
October 2, 2006
TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO
The media assault on Donna Trevino, the overwhelmed single mother in
Butler County, Ohio, has gotten even uglier.
Trevino's three children were taken from her in May. (See the
September 11 Blog, Town Without Pity below) One of the children, Marcus
Fiesel, allegedly was tied up and locked in a stifling closet by his
foster parents, while they went to a family reunion. When they returned
and found Marcus dead, the foster mother allegedly concocted a story
that the boy had disappeared; the foster father allegedly burned the
body.
There has never been even an allegation that Donna Trevino abused any
of her children. Rather, this single mother with very little education,
who had run away from an allegedly abusive home herself at age 13,
couldn't cope with caring for three young children, one of whom,
Marcus, may have been autistic.
As news organizations have pried loose court records on the case,
they've found that, at one hearing, Trevino had given up. She was
willing to put Marcus up for adoption.
Often, the only time an impoverished birth mother can get a sympathetic
story from local media is when she makes such a decision. Then,
suddenly, she becomes a hero because she "loved the child enough to
give him up" - meaning, of course, let him be taken forever from
people like them and be handed over to people like us.
But Donna Trevino couldn't even catch that much of a break. Because,
remember, she dared to expect middle-class justice - - she filed a
wrongful death suit.
The excerpts from hearing transcripts included in news accounts offer
no clue as to why Trevino at one point was ready to surrender Marcus.
To me the most reasonable hypothesis is that she was so overwhelmed by
the demands of caring for him - with no help from Butler County -
that she did, indeed, decide he would do better elsewhere.
But a Blog, like an editorial, is a proper place to hypothesize. A news
story is not. And those who prefer their news stories straight can
check out the Middletown Journal's account
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/09/27/ddn092706trevino.html,
reprinted in the co-owned Dayton Daily News, under the headline
"Marcus' mom had history with court."
But the Cincinnati Enquirer couldn't bring itself to settle for
facts. They spun the story
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060926/NEWS01/609260380
to make it fit the paper's "master narrative" - that Trevino is
a rotten mother who now just wants to cash in on her son's death,
aided and abetted by greedy lawyers.
"Birth mom didn't want Marcus," said the Enquirer headline,
"Lawyer knew, but filed suit for loss of love," said the subhead.
Reporters don't write their own headlines, but in this case the
Enquirer copy desk aptly summed up the story, which began as follows:
"The birth mother who sued Butler County for $5 million over her
son's death in foster care had no intention of reuniting with the boy,
according to court records The Enquirer obtained Monday. In addition,
the attorney who stands to gain millions in the civil case if the case
is successful knew that."
The story goes on: "[Butler County] Commissioner Mike Fox offered
harsh criticism for [Trevino's lawyer's] handling of the lawsuit.
'This shows predatory lawyering at its worst,' he said. 'These
are the types of actions that give lawyers a bad name.'"
No other point of view made it into the story.
It all reminds me of a story I read in the Orlando Sentinel about 17
years ago, when I was writing my book about child welfare, Wounded
Innocents. The story was about a mother in Florida who desperately
loved her two children, four-year-old Lisa and two-year-old Amanda, but
was homeless. Fearing that the state would take them away, she
"voluntarily" surrendered them to the state, at first temporarily.
"She figured giving the kids up for temporary custody was her best
chance of keeping them," The Sentinel reported. Lisa and Amanda's
mother visited them at the church day care facility every day. By fall
she was talking to a church worker about giving the girls up for
adoption. Because, the church worker said, she thought that "was going
to be better for them than anything she could ever give to them. She
did love the girls. If she could give them up, they could be taken care
of, sent to college." The girls said their mother
"'had water in her eyes' when she said goodbye. The mother left a
necklace - a chain with a big heart and two little ones - behind as a
remembrance. She told Lisa to tell Amanda that she loved her. And she
left."
The headline on this particular story was "Homeless with children:
Poverty and despair are forcing some parents to give up their kids." Of
course, had the story run in the Cincinnati Enquirer, I'm sure it would
have had a different headline. Probably something like "Birth Mom
didn't want Lisa, Amanda."


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Old November 6th 06, 09:21 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
spd
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Default TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO


Greegor wrote:
http://www.nccpr.org/reports/blog.htm
October 2, 2006
TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO
The media assault on Donna Trevino, the overwhelmed single mother in
Butler County, Ohio, has gotten even uglier.
Trevino's three children were taken from her in May. (See the
September 11 Blog, Town Without Pity below) One of the children, Marcus
Fiesel, allegedly was tied up and locked in a stifling closet by his
foster parents, while they went to a family reunion. When they returned
and found Marcus dead, the foster mother allegedly concocted a story
that the boy had disappeared; the foster father allegedly burned the
body.
There has never been even an allegation that Donna Trevino abused any
of her children. Rather, this single mother with very little education,
who had run away from an allegedly abusive home herself at age 13,
couldn't cope with caring for three young children, one of whom,
Marcus, may have been autistic.
As news organizations have pried loose court records on the case,
they've found that, at one hearing, Trevino had given up. She was
willing to put Marcus up for adoption.
Often, the only time an impoverished birth mother can get a sympathetic
story from local media is when she makes such a decision. Then,
suddenly, she becomes a hero because she "loved the child enough to
give him up" - meaning, of course, let him be taken forever from
people like them and be handed over to people like us.
But Donna Trevino couldn't even catch that much of a break. Because,
remember, she dared to expect middle-class justice - - she filed a
wrongful death suit.
The excerpts from hearing transcripts included in news accounts offer
no clue as to why Trevino at one point was ready to surrender Marcus.
To me the most reasonable hypothesis is that she was so overwhelmed by
the demands of caring for him - with no help from Butler County -
that she did, indeed, decide he would do better elsewhere.
But a Blog, like an editorial, is a proper place to hypothesize. A news
story is not. And those who prefer their news stories straight can
check out the Middletown Journal's account
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/09/27/ddn092706trevino.html,
reprinted in the co-owned Dayton Daily News, under the headline
"Marcus' mom had history with court."
But the Cincinnati Enquirer couldn't bring itself to settle for
facts. They spun the story
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060926/NEWS01/609260380
to make it fit the paper's "master narrative" - that Trevino is
a rotten mother who now just wants to cash in on her son's death,
aided and abetted by greedy lawyers.
"Birth mom didn't want Marcus," said the Enquirer headline,
"Lawyer knew, but filed suit for loss of love," said the subhead.
Reporters don't write their own headlines, but in this case the
Enquirer copy desk aptly summed up the story, which began as follows:
"The birth mother who sued Butler County for $5 million over her
son's death in foster care had no intention of reuniting with the boy,
according to court records The Enquirer obtained Monday. In addition,
the attorney who stands to gain millions in the civil case if the case
is successful knew that."
The story goes on: "[Butler County] Commissioner Mike Fox offered
harsh criticism for [Trevino's lawyer's] handling of the lawsuit.
'This shows predatory lawyering at its worst,' he said. 'These
are the types of actions that give lawyers a bad name.'"
No other point of view made it into the story.
It all reminds me of a story I read in the Orlando Sentinel about 17
years ago, when I was writing my book about child welfare, Wounded
Innocents. The story was about a mother in Florida who desperately
loved her two children, four-year-old Lisa and two-year-old Amanda, but
was homeless. Fearing that the state would take them away, she
"voluntarily" surrendered them to the state, at first temporarily.
"She figured giving the kids up for temporary custody was her best
chance of keeping them," The Sentinel reported. Lisa and Amanda's
mother visited them at the church day care facility every day. By fall
she was talking to a church worker about giving the girls up for
adoption. Because, the church worker said, she thought that "was going
to be better for them than anything she could ever give to them. She
did love the girls. If she could give them up, they could be taken care
of, sent to college." The girls said their mother
"'had water in her eyes' when she said goodbye. The mother left a
necklace - a chain with a big heart and two little ones - behind as a
remembrance. She told Lisa to tell Amanda that she loved her. And she
left."
The headline on this particular story was "Homeless with children:
Poverty and despair are forcing some parents to give up their kids." Of
course, had the story run in the Cincinnati Enquirer, I'm sure it would
have had a different headline. Probably something like "Birth Mom
didn't want Lisa, Amanda."


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Old November 6th 06, 09:23 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
spd
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Default TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO


spd wrote:
Greegor wrote:
http://www.nccpr.org/reports/blog.htm
October 2, 2006
TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO
The media assault on Donna Trevino, the overwhelmed single mother in
Butler County, Ohio, has gotten even uglier.
Trevino's three children were taken from her in May. (See the
September 11 Blog, Town Without Pity below) One of the children, Marcus
Fiesel, allegedly was tied up and locked in a stifling closet by his
foster parents, while they went to a family reunion. When they returned
and found Marcus dead, the foster mother allegedly concocted a story
that the boy had disappeared; the foster father allegedly burned the
body.
There has never been even an allegation that Donna Trevino abused any
of her children. Rather, this single mother with very little education,
who had run away from an allegedly abusive home herself at age 13,
couldn't cope with caring for three young children, one of whom,
Marcus, may have been autistic.
As news organizations have pried loose court records on the case,
they've found that, at one hearing, Trevino had given up. She was
willing to put Marcus up for adoption.
Often, the only time an impoverished birth mother can get a sympathetic
story from local media is when she makes such a decision. Then,
suddenly, she becomes a hero because she "loved the child enough to
give him up" - meaning, of course, let him be taken forever from
people like them and be handed over to people like us.
But Donna Trevino couldn't even catch that much of a break. Because,
remember, she dared to expect middle-class justice - - she filed a
wrongful death suit.
The excerpts from hearing transcripts included in news accounts offer
no clue as to why Trevino at one point was ready to surrender Marcus.
To me the most reasonable hypothesis is that she was so overwhelmed by
the demands of caring for him - with no help from Butler County -
that she did, indeed, decide he would do better elsewhere.
But a Blog, like an editorial, is a proper place to hypothesize. A news
story is not. And those who prefer their news stories straight can
check out the Middletown Journal's account
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/09/27/ddn092706trevino.html,
reprinted in the co-owned Dayton Daily News, under the headline
"Marcus' mom had history with court."
But the Cincinnati Enquirer couldn't bring itself to settle for
facts. They spun the story
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060926/NEWS01/609260380
to make it fit the paper's "master narrative" - that Trevino is
a rotten mother who now just wants to cash in on her son's death,
aided and abetted by greedy lawyers.
"Birth mom didn't want Marcus," said the Enquirer headline,
"Lawyer knew, but filed suit for loss of love," said the subhead.
Reporters don't write their own headlines, but in this case the
Enquirer copy desk aptly summed up the story, which began as follows:
"The birth mother who sued Butler County for $5 million over her
son's death in foster care had no intention of reuniting with the boy,
according to court records The Enquirer obtained Monday. In addition,
the attorney who stands to gain millions in the civil case if the case
is successful knew that."
The story goes on: "[Butler County] Commissioner Mike Fox offered
harsh criticism for [Trevino's lawyer's] handling of the lawsuit.
'This shows predatory lawyering at its worst,' he said. 'These
are the types of actions that give lawyers a bad name.'"
No other point of view made it into the story.
It all reminds me of a story I read in the Orlando Sentinel about 17
years ago, when I was writing my book about child welfare, Wounded
Innocents. The story was about a mother in Florida who desperately
loved her two children, four-year-old Lisa and two-year-old Amanda, but
was homeless. Fearing that the state would take them away, she
"voluntarily" surrendered them to the state, at first temporarily.
"She figured giving the kids up for temporary custody was her best
chance of keeping them," The Sentinel reported. Lisa and Amanda's
mother visited them at the church day care facility every day. By fall
she was talking to a church worker about giving the girls up for
adoption. Because, the church worker said, she thought that "was going
to be better for them than anything she could ever give to them. She
did love the girls. If she could give them up, they could be taken care
of, sent to college." The girls said their mother
"'had water in her eyes' when she said goodbye. The mother left a
necklace - a chain with a big heart and two little ones - behind as a
remembrance. She told Lisa to tell Amanda that she loved her. And she
left."
The headline on this particular story was "Homeless with children:
Poverty and despair are forcing some parents to give up their kids." Of
course, had the story run in the Cincinnati Enquirer, I'm sure it would
have had a different headline. Probably something like "Birth Mom
didn't want Lisa, Amanda."





you should move in with her Greg..what the heck !

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Old November 6th 06, 09:34 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Default TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO


spd wrote:
spd wrote:
Greegor wrote:
http://www.nccpr.org/reports/blog.htm
October 2, 2006
TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO
The media assault on Donna Trevino, the overwhelmed single mother in
Butler County, Ohio, has gotten even uglier.
Trevino's three children were taken from her in May. (See the
September 11 Blog, Town Without Pity below) One of the children, Marcus
Fiesel, allegedly was tied up and locked in a stifling closet by his
foster parents, while they went to a family reunion. When they returned
and found Marcus dead, the foster mother allegedly concocted a story
that the boy had disappeared; the foster father allegedly burned the
body.
There has never been even an allegation that Donna Trevino abused any
of her children. Rather, this single mother with very little education,
who had run away from an allegedly abusive home herself at age 13,
couldn't cope with caring for three young children, one of whom,
Marcus, may have been autistic.
As news organizations have pried loose court records on the case,
they've found that, at one hearing, Trevino had given up. She was
willing to put Marcus up for adoption.
Often, the only time an impoverished birth mother can get a sympathetic
story from local media is when she makes such a decision. Then,
suddenly, she becomes a hero because she "loved the child enough to
give him up" - meaning, of course, let him be taken forever from
people like them and be handed over to people like us.
But Donna Trevino couldn't even catch that much of a break. Because,
remember, she dared to expect middle-class justice - - she filed a
wrongful death suit.
The excerpts from hearing transcripts included in news accounts offer
no clue as to why Trevino at one point was ready to surrender Marcus.
To me the most reasonable hypothesis is that she was so overwhelmed by
the demands of caring for him - with no help from Butler County -
that she did, indeed, decide he would do better elsewhere.
But a Blog, like an editorial, is a proper place to hypothesize. A news
story is not. And those who prefer their news stories straight can
check out the Middletown Journal's account
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/09/27/ddn092706trevino.html,
reprinted in the co-owned Dayton Daily News, under the headline
"Marcus' mom had history with court."
But the Cincinnati Enquirer couldn't bring itself to settle for
facts. They spun the story
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060926/NEWS01/609260380
to make it fit the paper's "master narrative" - that Trevino is
a rotten mother who now just wants to cash in on her son's death,
aided and abetted by greedy lawyers.
"Birth mom didn't want Marcus," said the Enquirer headline,
"Lawyer knew, but filed suit for loss of love," said the subhead.
Reporters don't write their own headlines, but in this case the
Enquirer copy desk aptly summed up the story, which began as follows:
"The birth mother who sued Butler County for $5 million over her
son's death in foster care had no intention of reuniting with the boy,
according to court records The Enquirer obtained Monday. In addition,
the attorney who stands to gain millions in the civil case if the case
is successful knew that."
The story goes on: "[Butler County] Commissioner Mike Fox offered
harsh criticism for [Trevino's lawyer's] handling of the lawsuit.
'This shows predatory lawyering at its worst,' he said. 'These
are the types of actions that give lawyers a bad name.'"
No other point of view made it into the story.
It all reminds me of a story I read in the Orlando Sentinel about 17
years ago, when I was writing my book about child welfare, Wounded
Innocents. The story was about a mother in Florida who desperately
loved her two children, four-year-old Lisa and two-year-old Amanda, but
was homeless. Fearing that the state would take them away, she
"voluntarily" surrendered them to the state, at first temporarily.
"She figured giving the kids up for temporary custody was her best
chance of keeping them," The Sentinel reported. Lisa and Amanda's
mother visited them at the church day care facility every day. By fall
she was talking to a church worker about giving the girls up for
adoption. Because, the church worker said, she thought that "was going
to be better for them than anything she could ever give to them. She
did love the girls. If she could give them up, they could be taken care
of, sent to college." The girls said their mother
"'had water in her eyes' when she said goodbye. The mother left a
necklace - a chain with a big heart and two little ones - behind as a
remembrance. She told Lisa to tell Amanda that she loved her. And she
left."
The headline on this particular story was "Homeless with children:
Poverty and despair are forcing some parents to give up their kids." Of
course, had the story run in the Cincinnati Enquirer, I'm sure it would
have had a different headline. Probably something like "Birth Mom
didn't want Lisa, Amanda."





you should move in with her Greg..what the heck !


Now spd, THAT is just pure meanness on your part.

Hasn't she suffered enough?

I wonder if Lisa of Iowa will ever catch on to this creep?

He's so busy trying to dodge the things he's done...like give legal
advice that he could be charged for in criminal court if the recipient
reported him...and lying about what others say by snipping their
comments to some tiny fraction of the whole....that he's willing to do
anything to divert attention from those issues.

I expect moon landing hoax stories any time now.....R R R R R R

So nice to see you back by the way. Hope all is sailing along nicely
for you.

Feel free to post to me privately if you've a notion.

Kane

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Old November 6th 06, 09:50 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
Charlie Chinaman
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spd wrote:
spd wrote:
Greegor wrote:
http://www.nccpr.org/reports/blog.htm
October 2, 2006
TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO
The media assault on Donna Trevino, the overwhelmed single mother in
Butler County, Ohio, has gotten even uglier.
Trevino's three children were taken from her in May. (See the
September 11 Blog, Town Without Pity below) One of the children,
Marcus
Fiesel, allegedly was tied up and locked in a stifling closet by his
foster parents, while they went to a family reunion. When they
returned
and found Marcus dead, the foster mother allegedly concocted a story
that the boy had disappeared; the foster father allegedly burned the
body.
There has never been even an allegation that Donna Trevino abused any
of her children. Rather, this single mother with very little
education,
who had run away from an allegedly abusive home herself at age 13,
couldn't cope with caring for three young children, one of whom,
Marcus, may have been autistic.
As news organizations have pried loose court records on the case,
they've found that, at one hearing, Trevino had given up. She was
willing to put Marcus up for adoption.
Often, the only time an impoverished birth mother can get a
sympathetic
story from local media is when she makes such a decision. Then,
suddenly, she becomes a hero because she "loved the child enough to
give him up" - meaning, of course, let him be taken forever from
people like them and be handed over to people like us.
But Donna Trevino couldn't even catch that much of a break. Because,
remember, she dared to expect middle-class justice - - she filed a
wrongful death suit.
The excerpts from hearing transcripts included in news accounts offer
no clue as to why Trevino at one point was ready to surrender Marcus.
To me the most reasonable hypothesis is that she was so overwhelmed
by
the demands of caring for him - with no help from Butler County -
that she did, indeed, decide he would do better elsewhere.
But a Blog, like an editorial, is a proper place to hypothesize. A
news
story is not. And those who prefer their news stories straight can
check out the Middletown Journal's account
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/09/27/ddn092706trevino.html,
reprinted in the co-owned Dayton Daily News, under the headline
"Marcus' mom had history with court."
But the Cincinnati Enquirer couldn't bring itself to settle for
facts. They spun the story
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060926/NEWS01/609260380
to make it fit the paper's "master narrative" - that Trevino is
a rotten mother who now just wants to cash in on her son's death,
aided and abetted by greedy lawyers.
"Birth mom didn't want Marcus," said the Enquirer headline,
"Lawyer knew, but filed suit for loss of love," said the subhead.
Reporters don't write their own headlines, but in this case the
Enquirer copy desk aptly summed up the story, which began as follows:
"The birth mother who sued Butler County for $5 million over her
son's death in foster care had no intention of reuniting with the
boy,
according to court records The Enquirer obtained Monday. In addition,
the attorney who stands to gain millions in the civil case if the
case
is successful knew that."
The story goes on: "[Butler County] Commissioner Mike Fox offered
harsh criticism for [Trevino's lawyer's] handling of the lawsuit.
'This shows predatory lawyering at its worst,' he said. 'These
are the types of actions that give lawyers a bad name.'"
No other point of view made it into the story.
It all reminds me of a story I read in the Orlando Sentinel about 17
years ago, when I was writing my book about child welfare, Wounded
Innocents. The story was about a mother in Florida who desperately
loved her two children, four-year-old Lisa and two-year-old Amanda,
but
was homeless. Fearing that the state would take them away, she
"voluntarily" surrendered them to the state, at first temporarily.
"She figured giving the kids up for temporary custody was her best
chance of keeping them," The Sentinel reported. Lisa and Amanda's
mother visited them at the church day care facility every day. By
fall
she was talking to a church worker about giving the girls up for
adoption. Because, the church worker said, she thought that "was
going
to be better for them than anything she could ever give to them. She
did love the girls. If she could give them up, they could be taken
care
of, sent to college." The girls said their mother
"'had water in her eyes' when she said goodbye. The mother left a
necklace - a chain with a big heart and two little ones - behind as a
remembrance. She told Lisa to tell Amanda that she loved her. And she
left."
The headline on this particular story was "Homeless with children:
Poverty and despair are forcing some parents to give up their kids."
Of
course, had the story run in the Cincinnati Enquirer, I'm sure it
would
have had a different headline. Probably something like "Birth Mom
didn't want Lisa, Amanda."





you should move in with her Greg..what the heck !


Now spd, THAT is just pure meanness on your part.

Hasn't she suffered enough?

I wonder if Lisa of Iowa will ever catch on to this creep?


This isn't about Greg - it's about Marcus, a child murdered by fosties and
the cruel and inhumane treatment offered Marcus' birth mother after his
murder at the hands of folk like you.

Seeing how you fosties get so obsessed hating birth parents it's no wonder
you abuse and murder our children at such shameful rates.

No, it's not about Greg.


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Old November 7th 06, 12:02 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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spd wrote:
spd wrote:
Greegor wrote:
http://www.nccpr.org/reports/blog.htm
October 2, 2006
TOWN WITHOUT PITY, PART TWO
The media assault on Donna Trevino, the overwhelmed single mother in
Butler County, Ohio, has gotten even uglier.
Trevino's three children were taken from her in May. (See the
September 11 Blog, Town Without Pity below) One of the children,
Marcus
Fiesel, allegedly was tied up and locked in a stifling closet by his
foster parents, while they went to a family reunion. When they
returned
and found Marcus dead, the foster mother allegedly concocted a story
that the boy had disappeared; the foster father allegedly burned the
body.
There has never been even an allegation that Donna Trevino abused any
of her children. Rather, this single mother with very little
education,
who had run away from an allegedly abusive home herself at age 13,
couldn't cope with caring for three young children, one of whom,
Marcus, may have been autistic.
As news organizations have pried loose court records on the case,
they've found that, at one hearing, Trevino had given up. She was
willing to put Marcus up for adoption.
Often, the only time an impoverished birth mother can get a
sympathetic
story from local media is when she makes such a decision. Then,
suddenly, she becomes a hero because she "loved the child enough to
give him up" - meaning, of course, let him be taken forever from
people like them and be handed over to people like us.
But Donna Trevino couldn't even catch that much of a break. Because,
remember, she dared to expect middle-class justice - - she filed a
wrongful death suit.
The excerpts from hearing transcripts included in news accounts offer
no clue as to why Trevino at one point was ready to surrender Marcus.
To me the most reasonable hypothesis is that she was so overwhelmed
by
the demands of caring for him - with no help from Butler County -
that she did, indeed, decide he would do better elsewhere.
But a Blog, like an editorial, is a proper place to hypothesize. A
news
story is not. And those who prefer their news stories straight can
check out the Middletown Journal's account
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/09/27/ddn092706trevino.html,
reprinted in the co-owned Dayton Daily News, under the headline
"Marcus' mom had history with court."
But the Cincinnati Enquirer couldn't bring itself to settle for
facts. They spun the story
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060926/NEWS01/609260380
to make it fit the paper's "master narrative" - that Trevino is
a rotten mother who now just wants to cash in on her son's death,
aided and abetted by greedy lawyers.
"Birth mom didn't want Marcus," said the Enquirer headline,
"Lawyer knew, but filed suit for loss of love," said the subhead.
Reporters don't write their own headlines, but in this case the
Enquirer copy desk aptly summed up the story, which began as follows:
"The birth mother who sued Butler County for $5 million over her
son's death in foster care had no intention of reuniting with the
boy,
according to court records The Enquirer obtained Monday. In addition,
the attorney who stands to gain millions in the civil case if the
case
is successful knew that."
The story goes on: "[Butler County] Commissioner Mike Fox offered
harsh criticism for [Trevino's lawyer's] handling of the lawsuit.
'This shows predatory lawyering at its worst,' he said. 'These
are the types of actions that give lawyers a bad name.'"
No other point of view made it into the story.
It all reminds me of a story I read in the Orlando Sentinel about 17
years ago, when I was writing my book about child welfare, Wounded
Innocents. The story was about a mother in Florida who desperately
loved her two children, four-year-old Lisa and two-year-old Amanda,
but
was homeless. Fearing that the state would take them away, she
"voluntarily" surrendered them to the state, at first temporarily.
"She figured giving the kids up for temporary custody was her best
chance of keeping them," The Sentinel reported. Lisa and Amanda's
mother visited them at the church day care facility every day. By
fall
she was talking to a church worker about giving the girls up for
adoption. Because, the church worker said, she thought that "was
going
to be better for them than anything she could ever give to them. She
did love the girls. If she could give them up, they could be taken
care
of, sent to college." The girls said their mother
"'had water in her eyes' when she said goodbye. The mother left a
necklace - a chain with a big heart and two little ones - behind as a
remembrance. She told Lisa to tell Amanda that she loved her. And she
left."
The headline on this particular story was "Homeless with children:
Poverty and despair are forcing some parents to give up their kids."
Of
course, had the story run in the Cincinnati Enquirer, I'm sure it
would
have had a different headline. Probably something like "Birth Mom
didn't want Lisa, Amanda."




you should move in with her Greg..what the heck !


Now spd, THAT is just pure meanness on your part.

Hasn't she suffered enough?

I wonder if Lisa of Iowa will ever catch on to this creep?


This isn't about Greg - it's about Marcus, a child murdered by fosties and
the cruel and inhumane treatment offered Marcus' birth mother after his
murder at the hands of folk like you.

Seeing how you fosties get so obsessed hating birth parents it's no wonder
you abuse and murder our children at such shameful rates.


If they let themselves go, as you claim, there would be a great many
murders of viscious abusive rapist parents, Clyde. But foster parents
know the message that would send to the children, and they actually do
their best to help parents.

There are programs in CPS that have been around for years, were foster
parents have been surrogate parents to the parents of the children they
foster.

No, it's not about Greg.


Sure it is. You are both liars.

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Old November 7th 06, 07:32 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Default Marcus Fiesel PHOTOGRAPHS

NINE PHOTOGRAPHS

Marcus Fiesel with Food on his face
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/2006...03_400X300.jpg

Various photos of Marcus Fiesel
http://legalnews.tv/images/stories/foster_care.jpg
http://www.kcci.com/2006/0823/9725664_240X180.jpg
http://www.peoplesdefender.com/SiteI...le/123968a.jpg

Bogus story about Foster fainting in park
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news...51/detail.html

Remains of fireplace where Foster ""father"" tried 3 times to burn body
http://www.peoplesdefender.com/SiteI...le/123968b.jpg

David and Liz Carroll, fosters David was found to be BIPOLAR
http://www.onnnews.com/sites/10tv/co...rrolls_160.jpg
http://www.onnnews.com/sites/ONN/con...lsMugs_160.jpg
http://www.kcci.com/2006/0829/9753068_240X180.jpg

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Old November 7th 06, 07:36 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Default Marcus Fiesel PHOTOGRAPHS

Greegor wrote:
NINE PHOTOGRAPHS

Marcus Fiesel with Food on his face
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/2006...03_400X300.jpg

Various photos of Marcus Fiesel
http://legalnews.tv/images/stories/foster_care.jpg
http://www.kcci.com/2006/0823/9725664_240X180.jpg
http://www.peoplesdefender.com/SiteI...le/123968a.jpg

Bogus story about Foster fainting in park
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news...51/detail.html

Remains of fireplace where Foster ""father"" tried 3 times to burn body
http://www.peoplesdefender.com/SiteI...le/123968b.jpg

David and Liz Carroll, fosters David was found to be BIPOLAR
http://www.onnnews.com/sites/10tv/co...rrolls_160.jpg
http://www.onnnews.com/sites/ONN/con...lsMugs_160.jpg
http://www.kcci.com/2006/0829/9753068_240X180.jpg



Sure sounds like they ought to hang if convicted.

I think I commented on this couple before to that effect.

Did you have another point you wanted to make, say, perhaps, to pretend,
to claim, that foster parents are more prone to this kind of thing than
bio parents?

Please do. I haven't gone to my archives of parental abuses for a long
time now. Happy to run some out for you.




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Old November 7th 06, 07:38 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.foster-parents
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Default Marcus Fiesel PHOTOGRAPHS


Greegor wrote:
NINE PHOTOGRAPHS


snip

You can post all the stories about child abuse/maltreatmen/neglect you
want, Greg.

It won't change what you did to your girlfriend's daughter.

And in the not so distant future another child molestor will be posting
your picture and your story to try and take the focus off of what they
did.

What goes around... , Greg.

 




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