Birth psychiatry ('Baby Blues': Are OBs causing some cases?)

Baby Blues Connection of Portland, Oregon: Oregon's only medical school -
OHSU - may be causing some cases of "Baby Blues" - please see the very end
of this post...

PSYCHIATRY FACTOID: The president of the American Psychiatric Association
suggested in 1944 that Americans might emulate "Amazon river natives" who
believe that squatting "lets the soul catch up with the body." (See quote
below.)

The Great Squat Robbery (discussed below) may have something (indirectly) to
do with "Baby Blues" and Postpartum Depression. Most adult American's
*can't* squat - not easily anyway.... See below.


"BABY BLUES"...

POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION...

ARE OBs CAUSING SOME CASES?


DIFFICULT LABOR AND OBs CLOSING BIRTH CANALS...

Psychiatrist CAROL WATKINS, MD says there is increased postpartum depression
risk
after "difficult labor."
http://www.ncpamd.com/Postpartum_Depression.htm

ATTENTION PSYCHIATRISTS (and pregnant women):

OBs are *causing* difficult labors by routinely closing pelvic outlets up to
30%.

OBs are also causing difficult labors by routinely KEEPING pelvic outlets
closed up
to 30% when babies get stuck.

"It is established obstetric teaching that a narrow pelvic outlet
predisposes to a difficult vaginal delivery..."
--Ass-Ärztin Dr. Andrea Froschauer-Frudinger et al. [Br J Obstet Gynaecol
2002;109(11):1207-12]

OBs are LYING to cover-up.

See THE FOUR OB LIES below.



PSYCHIATRISTS (I found these AMA ethical principles on the American
Psychiatric Association website):

"A physician shall...strive to expose those physicians...who engage in fraud
or deception."

"A physician shall...seek changes in those requirements which are contrary
to the best interests of the patient."


"A physician shall...make relevant information available to patients,
colleagues, and the public..."

--From the AMA Principles of Medical Ethics
http://www.psych.org/psych_pract/eth...nions53101.cfm

Psychiatrists: PREVENTION is one of the APA's "Values," see below.




PREGNANT WOMEN: You might be able to PREVENT (or prevent some/lessen the
severity of) postpartum blues/postpartum depression...

It is EASY to allow your birth canal to OPEN the "extra" up to 30%.

See the very end of this post.


HOW COMMON are postpartum blues and postpartum depression?

Psychiatrist Carol Watkins, MD (quoted above) says of postpartum blues:

"In America, about 50% to 80% of new mothers
experience a mild, self-limited period of depression, anxiety, and emotional
reactivity
called the postpartum blues...usually...about three to five days after
delivery..."

Psychiatrist Watkins says of postpartum depression:

"...[Postpartum depression,] a more severe, lasting depression is
experienced by up to 12%^^^ of women after delivery. Symptoms may include
hopelessness, guilt, difficulty concentrating, poor appetite, and thoughts
of suicide. Frequent trips to the baby's pediatrician may be a sign of
depression."

^^^"Most women with postpartum depression are not diagnosed or treated."
http://www.ncpamd.com/Postpartum_Depression.htm

(Question for Psychiatrist Watkins: Doesn't saying "most women are not
diagnosed" mean someone is making some sort of preliminary diagnosis? Where
do they get their figures? Who is they?)

OPEN LETTER (archived for global access; see below)

Carol Watkins, M.D.
Board Certified in Child, Adolescent & Adult Psychiatry
Northern County (Maryland) Psychiatric Associates
Monkton: 16829 York Road/PO Box 544/Monkton, MD 21111
Lutherville: 2360 West Joppa Road Suite 223/ Lutherville, MD
410-329-2028
Email:

Carol,

You write of "issues" and "limitations," saying of yourself,

"...I must be knowledgeable of the changing issues [women] face in their
lives,
the limitations they have
encountered based on their history..."
http://www.ncpamd.com/Watkins.htm

One issue/limitation that most women with postpartum depression (and their
babies) face is obstetricians closing birth canals up to 30% and keeping
birth canals closed when babies get stuck.

Obstetricians are violently pushing on tiny spines (with oxytocin and
Cytotec) and gruesomely pulling (with hands, forceps, vacuums) - with birth
canals senselessly closed up to 30%.

Sometimes obstetricians pull so hard they rip spinal nerves out of tiny
spinal cords.

Some babies die, some babies get paralyzed - most "only" have their spines
gruesomely wrenched.

ALL spinal manipulation is gruesome with the birth canal closed the "extra"
up to 30%.

Women face related obviously illegal SURGICAL issues/limitations...

OBs are slicing vaginas/abdomens en masse (episiotomy/c-section) -
surgically/fraudulently inferring they are doing/have done everything
possible to open birth canals - even as they close birth canals up to 30%.

These obviously illegal behaviors of OBs likely contribute to INTENSE
FATIGUE OR SLEEPLESSNESS of mothers after birth...

INTENSE FATIGUE OR SLEEPLESSNESS...

Carol, I saw nothing about intense fatigue or sleeplessness in your
description of
postpartum depression/blues...

Yet the Alexian Brothers Medical Center calls intense fatigue and
sleeplessness "warning signs," as in,

"Warning Signs Of Severe Postpartum Depression...Intense fatigue or
sleeplessness...Feelings of hopelessness and helplessness...You have
aggressive impulses..."
http://www.alexian.org/progserv/babi...3m/severe.html

Inconsolable screaming/crying ("colic") would be quite understandable in
babies who have just had their spines gruesomely wrenched (MOST babies have
their spines gruesomely wrenched; see above)

Wouldn't "intense fatigue or sleeplessness be EXPECTED when babies suffering
"colic" are combined with women already suffering the debilitating effects
of major abdominal surgery (see below) - or "just" the effects of labor and
delivery complicated by OBs closing birth canals up to 30% and keeping birth
canals closed up to 30%?

Carol, you say that women "may have more difficulty with postpartum
depression" if
there is a "prior history of postpartum problems"...
http://www.ncpamd.com/Postpartum_Depression.htm

Makes sense to me! A prior history of an OB committing one or both surgical
felonies - PLUS the related OB felony - closing the birth canal up to 30% on
the baby (potential for intense sleeplessness/fatigue)...

Well - who WOULDN'T be depressed - who wouldn't at least feel a little
"blue"?

Again, Carol, your incredible postpartum blues figu

"In America, about 50% to 80% of new mothers experience
a mild, self-limited period of depression, anxiety, and emotional reactivity
called the postpartum blues...usually...about three to five days after
delivery...

You include SYMPTOMS after your up to 12% postpartum depression figure...

"...a more severe, lasting depression is
experienced by up to 12% of women after delivery. Symptoms may include
hopelessness, guilt, difficulty concentrating, poor appetite, and thoughts
of suicide. Frequent trips to the baby's pediatrician may be a sign of
depression."

Why not mention of SEVERE SLEEPLESSNESS, as in the Alexian Brothers Warning
Signs excerpted above?

Was this an accidental omission? Or is there controversy on this point?

Carol, you advise women regarding "Getting Psychiatric Help" if they are
suffering postpartum depression.
http://www.ncpamd.com/Postpartum_Depression.htm

WHAT ABOUT PREVENTION?

Again, you note that there is increased postpartum depression risk
after "difficult labor."
http://www.ncpamd.com/Postpartum_Depression.htm

Since OBs are *causing* difficult labors by routinely closing pelvic outlets
up to
30%.

Since OBs are causing difficult labors by routinely KEEPING birth canals
closed up
to 30% when babies get stuck.

And since,

"It is established obstetric teaching that a narrow pelvic outlet
predisposes to a difficult vaginal delivery..."
--Ass-Ärztin Dr. Andrea Froschauer-Frudinger et al. [Br J Obstet Gynaecol
2002;109(11):1207-12]

Maybe psychiatrists could help stop OBs from closing birth canals up to 30%,
etc.?

Maybe you could start interacting with your obstetric peers...

You say your work "requires...rigorous and
ongoing interaction with my peers to stay abreast of the latest
breakthroughs."
http://www.ncpamd.com/Watkins.htm

Your obstetric peers are *concealing* a birth breakthrough made last
century - to wit - it is easy to allow the
birth canal to open an "extra" up to 30%.

Your obstetric peers are actually lying as they conceal this breakthrough...

I noted some of the OB lies in an Open Letter to the FTC years ago...
http://home1.gte.net/gastaldo/part2ftc.html

THE FOUR OB LIES...

OB LIE #1. After MASSIVE change in the AP pelvic outlet diameter was
clinically demonstrated in 1911 and radiographically demonstrated in 1957,
the authors of Williams Obstetrics began erroneously claiming that pelvic
diamaters DON'T CHANGE at delivery.

OB LIE #2. After Ohlsen pointed out in 1973 that pelvic diameters DO
change - the authors of Williams Obstetrics began erroneously claiming that
their most frequent delivery position - dorsal - widens the outlet.

OB LIE #3. After I pointed out in 1992 that dorsal CLOSES - and so does
semisitting - the authors of Williams Obstetrics - put the correct
biomechanics in their 1993 edition - but kept in their text (in the same
paragraph!) - the dorsal widens bald lie that first called my attention to
their text...

OB LIE #4. OBs are actually KEEPING birth canals closed when babies get
stuck - and claiming they are doing everything to allow the birth canal open
maximally. (ACOG Shoulder Dystocia video - also forceps and vacuum births
are performed with the mother in lithotomy.)

See Make birth better: Dan Rather, before you leave CBS...
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2983


A LIKELY PART OF THE REASON OBs ARE LYING:
Cowan et al. wrote in 2003:

"Our findings show that more than 90% of term infants
with neonatal encephalopathy...without specific syndromes or major
congenital defects, had evidence of perinatally acquired insults...Reasons
for injuries of perinatal onset remain poorly understood."
--Cowan F, Rutherford M, Groenedaal F, Eken P, Mercuri E, Bydder GM,
Meiners LC, Dubowitz LMS, de Vries LS, Origin and timing of brain lesions in
term infants with neonatal encephalopathy. The Lancet
(Mar1)2003;361:736-42.


THINK ABOUT IT CAROL: Most women never hear of the "extra" up to 30% - and
women lucky enough to learn about it have to ASK for it...

Sometimes the "extra" up to 30% is denied when women ask! (It's not just
OBs. Dagny a mother on misc.kids.pregnancy says that a homebirth midwife
denied the "extra" up to 30%.)

Why should pregnant women be psychiatrically burdened (in effect) with the
task of informing their OB (or midwife) that he/she has been closing birth
canals up to 30% (and keeping birth canals closed when babies get stuck)?

Psychiatrists should help stop OBs from closing birth canals up to 30%.

Women shouldn't have to ask.

Again those quotes from the AMA's Principles of Medical Ethics:

"A physician shall...strive to expose those physicians deficient in
character or competence, or who engage in fraud or deception."

"A physician shall...seek changes in those requirements which are contrary
to the best interests of the patient."

"A physician shall...make relevant information available to patients,
colleagues, and the public..."
http://www.psych.org/psych_pract/eth...nions53101.cfm


Carol, I was intrigued by this quote from your website (my caps):

"...THERE IS MUCH LESS POSTPARTUM BLUES OR [POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION] IN MORE
TRADITIONAL CULTURES."
http://www.ncpamd.com/Postpartum_Depression.htm (emphasis added)

Traditional cultures don't rob children of a fundamental human rest
posture - comfortable flat-footed squatting.

Most Americans can't flat-footed squat for prolonged periods - and some
can't do it at all - they fall over backwards.

Even in women who have lost the EASY flat-footed squatting ability - with a
"squat bar" - flat-footed squatting can double for girls as a DELIVERY
posture - one that happens to allow the birth canal to open the "extra" up
to 30%...

RELEVANT QUOTES FROM LAST CENTURY...

"Dr. Markoe did not picture the original obstetric chair - namely,
squatting."
[Holmes, RW discussing Markoe JW. Posture in obstetrics. JAMA;
(Oct7)1916;67(15):1066]

"What is the really natural way that a woman should be delivered? Like the
natives of Africa, squatting down as if defaecating..."
[Joy NH. The squatting attitude in labour. BMJ (Jul2)1921:30]

In 1944, psychiatrist EA Strecker, MD indirectly suggested there may be
psychiatric ramifications of our culture-wide loss of a fundamental human
range of motion...
"Are we not a crossroads in the path of our civilization when it would be
well for us to emulate that tribe of Amazon River natives who, from time to
time, interrupt their customary routine of activities and squat on the
ground? Neither persuasion nor threat serves to move them until an alloted
time has elapsed. They declare they are waiting for their 'souls to catch
up with their bodies...'" [E.A. Strecker, MD. 1944 Presidential Address
before the American Psychiatric Association. Am J Psychiatry. 1944;101:1-8]


PROBLEM: Western culture ROBS the comfortable prolonged flat-footed
squatting ability.

As elderly adults, many Westerners can't easily rise from a chair as their
elderly counterparts in squatting cultures maintain the ability to rise from
a full squat. (I understand that Medicare is paying for motors in "ejection"
chairs if prescribed by a physician.)

Once we stop The Great Birth Robbery - psychiatrists might might want to
look into helping to stop The Great Squat Robbery. (British OB Jason Gardosi
once in effect blamed the former on the latter.)

See Two robberies: educators can stop them
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3047

INTERESTING COINCIDENCE...

ABOUT A HALF CENTURY AGO...

"It was about half a century ago that physicians began recognizing patterns
in the depression that some women experienced after childbirth..."
--Psychiatrist Paul Appelbaum, MD, then-president-elect of the American
Psychiatric Association
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/...um.depression/


About a half a century ago, obstetrics became a leading specialty of
medicine - OBs founded the American College of Obstetricians and
Gynecologists/ACOG in 1951 (?).

It was about that time that OBs began LYING - saying the pelvic diameters
don't change at delivery. See OB Lie #4 above...

PREVENTION is one of the "Values" of the American Psychiatric Association
(over 35,000 psychiatrists)...
http://www.psych.org/about_apa/

PREVENTION IS AN AMA-PRESCRIBED ETHICAL OBLIGATION...

"A physician shall...strive to expose those physicians deficient in
character or competence, or who engage in fraud or deception."

"A physician shall...seek changes in those requirements which are contrary
to the best interests of the patient."


"A physician shall...make relevant information available to patients,
colleagues, and the public..."
http://www.psych.org/psych_pract/eth...nions53101.cfm

Psychiatrists should be publicly demanding that OBs stop closing birth
canals up to 30%.

Psychiatrists should be publicly demanding that OBs stop KEEPING birth
canals closed when babies get stuck.

Psychiatrists should pretend that THEIR heads are being gripped by forceps,
about to be pulled through a pelvic outlet senselessly closed up to 30%.

For some babies, it's a matter of life and death.

Copied to all 35,000 members of the American Psychiatric Association
(hopefully, eventually) via the email addresses listed at:
http://www.psych.org/dbs_state_soc/dbstatesocindex.cfm





PREGNANT WOMEN: It is easy to offer your baby the "extra" up to 30% of
outlet area by simply rolling onto your side as you push your baby out.

JUST BEWA Some OBs and CNMwives let you "try" alternative delivery
positions - but move you back to semisitting or dorsal (close your birth
canal) for
the actual delivery.

ALSO BEWA It is STANDARD PRACTICE for OBs to keep birth canals closed
when babies get stuck - i.e. - OBs are pulling with forceps and vacuums -
with
birth canals senselessly closed...

LADIES: Talk to your OB or CNMwife about this today.

WHITE ELEPHANT FACT: Pregnant women should not have to ASK obstetricians
for the "extra" up to 30%.

My thanks to Daye of Australia for calling my attention to the issue of
postpartum depression. (I know, Daye, this post is way too long. Someday I
will be able to compose shorter posts.)

Thanks for reading everyone.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo

Hillsboro, OR

Copied to: BABY BLUES CONNECTION of Portland, Oregon via


Oregon's only medical school - OHSU - is promoting
birth-canal-closing/semisitting. Semisitting delivery closes the birth
canal up to 30% - and OBs are routinely KEEPING birth canals closed when
babies get stuck. See The Four OB Lies above.

Birth-canal-closing/semisitting may be causing some cases of "Baby Blues"
and Postpartum Depression.

Please join me in calling for OHSU to take down or change its
birth-canal-closing/semisitting-promoting website...
http://www.ohsuhealth.com/cwh/health...r/deliver.html


See Birth child abuse: Oregon's only medical school (OHSU)
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2986

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"Todd Gastaldo" wrote in message
.net...
Baby Blues Connection of Portland, Oregon: Oregon's only medical school -
OHSU - may be causing some cases of "Baby Blues" - please see the very end
of this post...

Professor Helen Varney at Yale University's school of midwifery says that
baby blues is the result of unnatural birth customs particulary
maternal-infant separation during the first hours after birth. The onset of
the blues is not till the third or fifth postpartum day but apparently the
blues gets its etiology in those first sensitive hours.

Carl

"BABY BLUES"

CNMwifery PROF. VARNEY PROMOTES UNNATURAL BIRTH CUSTOMS

See below..


I wrote:

Baby Blues Connection of Portland, Oregon: Oregon's only medical
school -
OHSU - may be causing some cases of "Baby Blues" - please see the very
end
of this post...

See Birth psychiatry ('Baby Blues': Are OBs causing some cases?)
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3123

Childbirth Educator Carl Jones replied:


Professor Helen Varney at Yale University's school of midwifery says that
baby blues is the result of unnatural birth customs particulary
maternal-infant separation during the first hours after birth. The onset
of
the blues is not till the third or fifth postpartum day but apparently the
blues gets its etiology in those first sensitive hours.


Carl,

Professor Helen Varney at Yale University's CNMwifery school promotes
closing birth canals up to 30% (semisitting delivery)...

Professor Varney also promotes KEEPING birth canals closed (lithotomy) when
babies get stuck.

See 'Midwives...encourage...semisitting' (Yale CNMwifery Prof. Helen Varney)
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2509

Professor Varney is indirectly promoting MASS CHILD ABUSE - wrenching of
babies' spines at birth.

She is also indirectly promoting surgical assaults on mothers.

(OBs are slicing vaginas/abdomens en masse - surgically/fraudulently
inferring they are doing/have done everything possible to open birth
canals - even as they close birth canals - up to 30%.)

Three to five days after birth - difficult birth or not - many
sleep-deprived surgically-assaulted mothers are going to feel "blue" -
"depressed."

I suspect many babies who scream unconsolably ("colic") are doing so because
they had their spines gruesomely wrenched at birth.

ALL spinal manipulation is gruesome with the birth canal closed the "extra"
up to 30%.

Now maybe "blues" and "depression" caused because of the obviously illegal
OB assaults on mothers and babies are different than "psychiatrically
diagnosed" baby blues and postpartum depression - but I don't know how one
could differentiate.

When mentioning CNMwifery Professor Varney's "unnatural birth customs"
theory on the causation of "baby blues," you might also mention her
PROMOTION of unnatural birth customs.

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo


PS Carl, you are a childbirth educator of note. In any of your writings
have you ever explicitly warned women that OBs are closing birth canals up
to 30% and keeping birth canals closed when babies get stuck and lying about
it?

If not, do you intend to start?

A group of physicians - obstetricians - is engaging in fraud and deception -
see The Four OB Lies below.

Why not join me in publicly encouraging AMA physicians to act in accord with
AMA Principles of Medical Ethics and EXPOSE the fraud and deception of these
physicians called obstetricians, as in,

"[AMA physician[s] shall...strive to expose those physicians...who engage in
fraud or deception."

"[AMA p]hysician[s] shall...seek changes in those requirements which are
contrary to the best interests of the patient."

"[AMA p]hysician[s] shall...make relevant information available to patients,
colleagues, and the public..."
http://www.psych.org/psych_pract/eth...nions53101.cfm


THE FOUR OB LIES...

OB LIE #1. After MASSIVE change in the AP pelvic outlet diameter was
clinically demonstrated in 1911 and radiographically demonstrated in 1957,
the authors of Williams Obstetrics began erroneously claiming that pelvic
diamaters DON'T CHANGE at delivery.

OB LIE #2. After Ohlsen pointed out in 1973 that pelvic diameters DO
change - the authors of Williams Obstetrics began erroneously claiming that
their most frequent delivery position - dorsal - widens the outlet.

OB LIE #3. After I pointed out in 1992 that dorsal CLOSES - and so does
semisitting - the authors of Williams Obstetrics - put the correct
biomechanics in their 1993 edition - but kept in their text (in the same
paragraph!) - the dorsal widens bald lie that first called my attention to
their text...

OB LIE #4. OBs are actually KEEPING birth canals closed when babies get
stuck - and claiming they are doing everything to allow the birth canal open
maximally. (ACOG Shoulder Dystocia video - also forceps and vacuum births
are performed with the mother in lithotomy.)

See Make birth better: Dan Rather, before you leave CBS...
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2983

I noted some of the OB lies in an Open Letter to the FTC years ago...
http://home1.gte.net/gastaldo/part2ftc.html

Carl,

Why do women have to ASK for the "extra" up to 30%?

Why are OBs being allowed to KEEP birth canals closed when babies get stuck?

In part, it's because of the silence of childbirth educators and the bizarre
promotion of unnatural birth customs by the likes of Yale CNMwifery Prof.
Helen Varney.

Thanks for reading.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo

"Todd Gastaldo" wrote in message
ink.net...
"BABY BLUES"

CNMwifery PROF. VARNEY PROMOTES UNNATURAL BIRTH CUSTOMS

See below..


I wrote:

Baby Blues Connection of Portland, Oregon: Oregon's only medical
school -
OHSU - may be causing some cases of "Baby Blues" - please see the very
end
of this post...

See Birth psychiatry ('Baby Blues': Are OBs causing some cases?)
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3123

Childbirth Educator Carl Jones replied:


Professor Helen Varney at Yale University's school of midwifery says
that
baby blues is the result of unnatural birth customs particulary
maternal-infant separation during the first hours after birth. The onset
of
the blues is not till the third or fifth postpartum day but apparently
the
blues gets its etiology in those first sensitive hours.


Carl,

Professor Helen Varney at Yale University's CNMwifery school promotes
closing birth canals up to 30% (semisitting delivery)...

Professor Varney also promotes KEEPING birth canals closed (lithotomy)
when
babies get stuck.

Todd, you make a good case for keeping the birth canal open and ready for
birth

I have Helen Varney's book on midwifery (I forget the title) and she does
recommend semi-sitting

I still think she is on the money about baby blues, however.

Carl