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'I could hear Todd Gastaldo in my head'
"I must also confess I could hear Todd Gastaldo in my head during this
birth - I wasn't determined to give birth in any particular position but the pain was minimalised when I was standing in a kind of standing squat..." --Stephanieplum http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain Stephanieplum, I am SO flattered! (See my brief account of my wife's similar birth story - a fantastic HOMEBIRTH in PS2 below.) Just remember: Women have their OWN inner voice to get them off their backs/butts to allow their birth canals to open maximally. French surgeon Michel Odent, MD indicated to me years ago (at a conference I attended) that if women labor feeling unobserved they listen to THEMSELVES - or rather they respond to what Odent calls the "fetus ejection reflex" and SPONTANEOUSLY get off their backs/butts. Early editions of Williams Obstetrics noted that women spontaneously assume **an upright position** in late second stage. (Note: One upright position - semisitting - CLOSES the birth canal. See my plea to Dr. Sussman in PS2 below.) Stephanieplum, I am SO flattered to see my name in this context but (I say again): If women are allowed to labor feeling unobserved, they get off their butts/backs THEMSELVES - spontaneously - or so says Odent. Thank you! Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo PS1 A 2004 book co-authored by John R. Sussman, MD indicates that semisitting is a "bright idea" - that it opens the birth canal. Semisitting CLOSES the birth canal - up to 30%. See Dr. Sussman: Semisitting delivery is NOT a bright idea... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2533 I get all depressed when I see things like what Dr. Sussman wrote in 2004... Then I see posts like Stephanieplum's and my spirits are buoyed. Thank you Stephanieplum! And thanks also to other women who have mentioned me in their usenet posts - and those who have written to thank me. Thank you, thank you, thank you. PS2 Stephanieplum alluded to a key HOMEBIRTH safety factor that happened to her in the hospital - or so it seems to me... Stephaniplum says of her hospital birth (see below) that she got to the point where she "thought the pain was unbearable and yelled for an epidural" - but she saw the midwife "wave away the Dr telling him it was too late for either an IV or an epidural." She continued: "After that, when I just accepted that this was it, the pain was *heaps* easier. The birth was fantastic. I gave birth almost standing up..." This reminded me of my third son's birth. It was a fantastic homebirth - quite close to the hospital in an apartment tower (8th floor?) down the hill from Oregon Health Sciences University... My wife wanted pain relief (she does not remember wanting it though). She was squatting - but she literally STOOD to deliver. She too was "almost standing up." She said that at one point, she sort of left her body and let it take over... What a rush it was for her after the birth! Her first vaginal birth! Pinnacle experience for me too. I am convinced that homebirth increases the frequency of the safety factor that happened to Stephanieplum (pain relief not going to happen). BTW, I think "pain relief not going to happen" was the RULE at Odent's birth center - someone check my fact. I LOVED this sentence from Stephanieplum - here it is again: "After that, when I just accepted that this was it, the pain was *heaps* easier. The birth was fantastic. I gave birth almost standing up..." If men gave birth I am sure they would start EARLY in pregnancy begging for epidurals! I would at least! LOL! : ) I can TOTALLY understand women wanting epidurals. They should have them - but they should be informed that OBs are doing stupid things like closing birth canals... Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo PS3 The abovementioned John R. Sussman, MD (and Ann Douglas) say in their 2004 edition: "You should consider a homebirth only if...there are no red flags in your obstetrical history (for example, you don't have a history of difficult delivery of the baby's shoulders or one that required the use of forceps or vacuum extractor; or a history of cesarean section, maternal hemorrhage, or stillbirth)..." (p. 401, eBook version) Sorry to get eMotional but...ARRRRGGGHHHH! MDs close birth canals up to 30% and CAUSE shoulder dystocia and the need for forceps, vacuum extractors and cesarean sections! To be sure, allowing the birth canal to open the "extra" up to 30% is not going to prevent all birth problems - but WHY are OBs and CNMwives closing birth canals and ignoring simple biomechanics and the medical literature to do so? NOTE: I am NOT opposed to hospital births! Women should birth where they are most comfortable. I think some women would LOVE a hospital birth with an experienced homebirth midwife. OBs should stop illegally libeling homebirth and homebirth midwives. Not so long ago MDs called homebirth "child abuse" - meanwhile OBs were (and still are!) COMMITTING child abuse - obvious (sometimes fatal) child abuse - by knowingly closing birth canals - and claiming they are opening birth canals! See ACOG vs. Homebirth http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2528 It's an obvious crime to knowingly close birth canals. Our birthing cultural authorities - OBs - *can't* stop because stopping the crime would be tantamount to admitting it - which is why I am in favor of pardons in advance for OBs. OBs are just academic prime cuts forced through this culture's most powerful mental meatgrinder - medical school. Pardons in advance will allow MDs to continue their valid medical work to be able to pay the inevitable civil damages. Copied to: John R. Sussman, MD via: , , , , , John, please immediately - publicly - tell the world that OBs are closing birth canals - and how easy it is for women to allow their birth canals to OPEN the "extra" up to 30%. Shannon asked: Has anyone experienced a birth that was unmedicated and you went past the point where you could have an epidural and it became unbearable? Stephanieplum replied: Yes. For my third baby I got to the point where I thought the pain was unbearable and yelled for an epidural. I couldn't manage to keep still enough for them to even get an IV in prior to the epidural. I then saw the midwife wave away the Dr telling him it was too late for either an IV or an epidrual. After that, when I just accepted that this was it, the pain was *heaps* easier. The birth was fantastic. I gave birth almost standing up. The midwives threw sheets and pillows on the ground and "caught" my baby - with me standing up and yelling "don't you dare drop him, make sure you catch good!" (I must also confess I could hear Todd Gastaldo in my head during this birth - I wasn't determined to give birth in any particular position but the pain was minimalised when I was standing in a kind of standing squat IYKWIM?) I've had one birth with a full, numbing epidural, another with a walking epidural and an unmedicated birth. The complete epidural wiped me out for days, they used *huge* forceps, I had an episiotomy and I had heaps of pain afterwards, could hardly sit down. The "walking epidural" just numbed the pain a little, but enough to stop me freaking out. I felt fantastic after this birth - no pain (except for normal afterpains). The third unmedicated birth resulted in no pain (afterpains though, of course) but I was physicallly exhausted, felt like I'd run two marathons. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain END Stephanieplum's misc.kids.pregnancy post Arrrgghhh... Forceps. And vacuums. OBs pull with the woman in semisitting or dorsal - birth canal senselessly closed up to 30%. Babies are so resilient. But some don't make it, some are paralyzed - but most "only" have their necks wrenched. Arrgghhhh... CHIROS... Babies routinely having their necks wrenched by MDs so chiropractic doctors can fix the problems with GENTLE spinal manipulation... A chiropractor's delight - NOT! See Dorland's: Preventing VS by educating OBs (also: New defn of chiro in Dorland's) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2318 CHIROS: See also: Vertebral genesis of functional disorders (i.e., dizziness)... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2527 Thanks for reading everyone. Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo |
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