To ALL fathers Custody

Of course half the marital assets should be yours--but not more than half.
And that happens far more often than you might imagine. As long as you are
careful to take responsibility for every step you take (or agree to take),
and don't hide behind the "but my lawyer made me do it" excuse, you should
not find yourself falling into that trap. Also, don't try to make him pay
your lawyer's bills, so you remain aware of how much it costs to do the
whole court thing. The burden is on *you* to keep things fair. HE will be
pretty much trapped in the system once things get rolling.


"Jeff Guay" wrote in message
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First of all...BOB...my attorney is a she...and NO it was not all HER
responsibility to go for support. I was paying EVERYTHING and even giving
him money towards the house... He makes over twice the amount of money I
make.. fair is fair..HE decided he wanted to keep the house and thats ok
with me..but that is NOT to say that he doesnt have some responsibility
towards his son.. and you bet your bottom dollar I am going for half the
marital assets...I helped pay for them too and they are rightfully...half
mine...once again..fair is fair...Or is it your notion that I should walk
away with NOTHING and have to start all over again while he should get
both
houses and everything in them?
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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"Jeff Guay" wrote in message
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OK...to clear up why the courts got involved...the one thing hubby and
I
really didn't do was...communicate very well...we were both to blame
for
that...and apparently that is still the case. I had an attorney who
decided
the first step was to get support...

This statement is very telling and belies all your other statements.
Anytime a CP makes a statement like - "It was my attorney's idea," or "It
was the state that took the action," or "That's what the court decided" -
they are hiding behind another entity and not taking personal
responsibility
for the outcomes in their cases.

And I'll bet your attorney's next ideas will be to go for daycare
expenses,
and medical insurance, and unreimbursed healthcare, and life insurance,
and
more than half the marital assets, and alimony, and past support, and
attorney fees, and whatever else he can dream up.

Of course, those would all be his ideas and you would have nothing to do
with it, right?

"Jeff Guay" wrote
First of all...BOB...my attorney is a she...and NO it was not all HER
responsibility to go for support. I was paying EVERYTHING and even giving
him money towards the house...
==
Whose idea was it to separate?

"teachrmama" wrote in message
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Of course half the marital assets should be yours--but not more than half.
And that happens far more often than you might imagine. As long as you
are careful to take responsibility for every step you take (or agree to
take), and don't hide behind the "but my lawyer made me do it" excuse, you
should not find yourself falling into that trap. Also, don't try to make
him pay your lawyer's bills, so you remain aware of how much it costs to
do the whole court thing. The burden is on *you* to keep things fair.

Why isn't the burden on *BOTH* of them to keep things fair?


HE will be
pretty much trapped in the system once things get rolling.


"Jeff Guay" wrote in message
...
First of all...BOB...my attorney is a she...and NO it was not all HER
responsibility to go for support. I was paying EVERYTHING and even
giving
him money towards the house... He makes over twice the amount of money I
make.. fair is fair..HE decided he wanted to keep the house and thats ok
with me..but that is NOT to say that he doesnt have some responsibility
towards his son.. and you bet your bottom dollar I am going for half the
marital assets...I helped pay for them too and they are rightfully...half
mine...once again..fair is fair...Or is it your notion that I should walk
away with NOTHING and have to start all over again while he should get
both
houses and everything in them?
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Guay" wrote in message
...
OK...to clear up why the courts got involved...the one thing hubby and
I
really didn't do was...communicate very well...we were both to blame
for
that...and apparently that is still the case. I had an attorney who
decided
the first step was to get support...

This statement is very telling and belies all your other statements.
Anytime a CP makes a statement like - "It was my attorney's idea," or
"It
was the state that took the action," or "That's what the court
decided" -
they are hiding behind another entity and not taking personal
responsibility
for the outcomes in their cases.

And I'll bet your attorney's next ideas will be to go for daycare
expenses,
and medical insurance, and unreimbursed healthcare, and life insurance,
and
more than half the marital assets, and alimony, and past support, and
attorney fees, and whatever else he can dream up.

Of course, those would all be his ideas and you would have nothing to do
with it, right?

"Jeff Guay" wrote in message
...
First of all...BOB...my attorney is a she...and NO it was not all HER
responsibility to go for support. I was paying EVERYTHING and even giving
him money towards the house... He makes over twice the amount of money I
make.. fair is fair..HE decided he wanted to keep the house and thats ok
with me..but that is NOT to say that he doesnt have some responsibility
towards his son.. and you bet your bottom dollar I am going for half the
marital assets...I helped pay for them too and they are rightfully...half
mine...once again..fair is fair...Or is it your notion that I should walk
away with NOTHING and have to start all over again while he should get
both
houses and everything in them?

This is the problem with America, you are so focused on material items that
it consumes you.

Everything in the house adds up to very little, most of it is just junk that
you see at some garage sales.
The house, it belongs to the bank until the day you make the last payment,
even then it still belongs to the government as you have to keep paying land
tax on it.

Do yourself a favour, walk away from it all, set yourself free and start
new, it matters little when you look back?

We are all spiritual beings in a physical body, this life is only temporary!

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
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Of course half the marital assets should be yours--but not more than
half. And that happens far more often than you might imagine. As long as
you are careful to take responsibility for every step you take (or agree
to take), and don't hide behind the "but my lawyer made me do it" excuse,
you should not find yourself falling into that trap. Also, don't try to
make him pay your lawyer's bills, so you remain aware of how much it
costs to do the whole court thing. The burden is on *you* to keep things
fair.

Why isn't the burden on *BOTH* of them to keep things fair?

You know doggone well why, Moon. Once the system starts rolling, HE will
simply be an ATM. She will be in the driver's seat. How do you propose
that he keep things fair? Sign over every pay check to her, and live on
what she deigns to throw back to him?

"Jeff Guay" wrote in message
...
First of all...BOB...my attorney is a she...and NO it was not all HER
responsibility to go for support. I was paying EVERYTHING and even giving
him money towards the house... He makes over twice the amount of money I
make.. fair is fair..HE decided he wanted to keep the house and thats ok
with me..but that is NOT to say that he doesnt have some responsibility
towards his son.. and you bet your bottom dollar I am going for half the
marital assets...I helped pay for them too and they are rightfully...half
mine...once again..fair is fair...Or is it your notion that I should walk
away with NOTHING and have to start all over again while he should get
both
houses and everything in them?

I apologize for getting the gender of your attorney wrong. Apparently I
didn't make my main point directly enough. Family law attorneys are bottom
feeders who create issues and discord in divorces to maximize their billable
hours. I tried to give you a list of how they do that.

BTW - So I don't make the same mistake twice - Who is Jeff? Is he the guy
you left your husband for or just some guy who lets you use his Internet
account?

"teachrmama" wrote in message
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
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Of course half the marital assets should be yours--but not more than
half. And that happens far more often than you might imagine. As long
as you are careful to take responsibility for every step you take (or
agree to take), and don't hide behind the "but my lawyer made me do it"
excuse, you should not find yourself falling into that trap. Also,
don't try to make him pay your lawyer's bills, so you remain aware of
how much it costs to do the whole court thing. The burden is on *you*
to keep things fair.

Why isn't the burden on *BOTH* of them to keep things fair?

You know doggone well why, Moon. Once the system starts rolling, HE will
simply be an ATM. She will be in the driver's seat. How do you propose
that he keep things fair? Sign over every pay check to her, and live on
what she deigns to throw back to him?

I propose that *BOTH* adults act like adults, and try to keep things fair.

Like I said, right above - "Why isn't the burden on *BOTH* of them to keep
things fair?"

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"teachrmama" wrote in message
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"teachrmama" wrote in message
...
Of course half the marital assets should be yours--but not more than
half. And that happens far more often than you might imagine. As long
as you are careful to take responsibility for every step you take (or
agree to take), and don't hide behind the "but my lawyer made me do it"
excuse, you should not find yourself falling into that trap. Also,
don't try to make him pay your lawyer's bills, so you remain aware of
how much it costs to do the whole court thing. The burden is on *you*
to keep things fair.

Why isn't the burden on *BOTH* of them to keep things fair?

You know doggone well why, Moon. Once the system starts rolling, HE will
simply be an ATM. She will be in the driver's seat. How do you propose
that he keep things fair? Sign over every pay check to her, and live on
what she deigns to throw back to him?

I propose that *BOTH* adults act like adults, and try to keep things fair.

Like I said, right above - "Why isn't the burden on *BOTH* of them to keep
things fair?"

And as I said right above, only she has the power to decide to be fair. He
will have to do as ordered by the court. Which you know perfectly well.

"teachrmama" wrote in message
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"teachrmama" wrote in message
...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"teachrmama" wrote in message
...
Of course half the marital assets should be yours--but not more than
half. And that happens far more often than you might imagine. As
long
as you are careful to take responsibility for every step you take (or
agree to take), and don't hide behind the "but my lawyer made me do
it"
excuse, you should not find yourself falling into that trap. Also,
don't try to make him pay your lawyer's bills, so you remain aware of
how much it costs to do the whole court thing. The burden is on
*you*
to keep things fair.

Why isn't the burden on *BOTH* of them to keep things fair?

You know doggone well why, Moon. Once the system starts rolling, HE
will
simply be an ATM. She will be in the driver's seat. How do you
propose
that he keep things fair? Sign over every pay check to her, and live
on
what she deigns to throw back to him?

I propose that *BOTH* adults act like adults, and try to keep things
fair.

Like I said, right above - "Why isn't the burden on *BOTH* of them to
keep
things fair?"

And as I said right above, only she has the power to decide to be fair.
He
will have to do as ordered by the court. Which you know perfectly well.

Kinda like a slave being "fair" to their master. How does THAT work?

"teachrmama" wrote in message
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
...
Of course half the marital assets should be yours--but not more than
half. And that happens far more often than you might imagine. As long
as you are careful to take responsibility for every step you take (or
agree to take), and don't hide behind the "but my lawyer made me do
it" excuse, you should not find yourself falling into that trap.
Also, don't try to make him pay your lawyer's bills, so you remain
aware of how much it costs to do the whole court thing. The burden is
on *you* to keep things fair.

Why isn't the burden on *BOTH* of them to keep things fair?

You know doggone well why, Moon. Once the system starts rolling, HE
will simply be an ATM. She will be in the driver's seat. How do you
propose that he keep things fair? Sign over every pay check to her, and
live on what she deigns to throw back to him?

I propose that *BOTH* adults act like adults, and try to keep things
fair.

Like I said, right above - "Why isn't the burden on *BOTH* of them to
keep things fair?"

And as I said right above, only she has the power to decide to be fair.
He will have to do as ordered by the court. Which you know perfectly
well.

Well, if you truly don't understand that the father can work real hard to be
unfair, and should have the same expectation for him to try to keep things
fair, so be it.

Just shows that you seem to have a mindset that women=bad, men=good.