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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 03:14:43 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote: Holger Dansk wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:24:48 -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: Holger Dansk wrote: Your ancestors were definitely black We have no idea what color anyone's ancestors were. Yes we do. Black people in America have relatives who are descendants in Africa of the relatives of the black people in America at the time they were captured by black savages in Africa. That sentence makes no sense. But how do you know what color their ancestors were? And how do you know what color their ancestors' ancestors were? I was there. :-) ----------------- You're a lying piece of ****, *I* was there, and I DIDN'T SEE YOU! ... And I see not in my blindness What the objects were I wrought, But as God rules o'er our bickerings It was through His will I fought. So forever in the future, Shall I battle as of yore, Dying to be born a fighter, But to die again, once more. :-) Holger http://www.mind****.com/~holger1/holger1.htm -------------------------- Okay, "Patton". And I knew this was Patton even without searching. Now all you need is a mind to call your own. The thing about this poem by Patton, is that somebody with the least intelligence might have asked why we have to waste our time life after life like that, in futility and ignorant pride. There are much better things to do and glory in. Well, war is really hell, and, compared to war, other forms of human endeavor pale into insignificance. God help me. I love it so. :-) Holger http://www.mindspring.com/~holger1/holger1.htm |
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R. Steve Walz wrote:
Fletch F. Fletch wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Fletch F. Fletch wrote: R. Steve Walz wrote: Fletch F. Fletch wrote: greccogirl wrote: --------------- Cosby is a rich rightist asshole, he always has been, he has played golf with Nixon and Reagan, and he's a black racist. The "I don't give a damn" attitide is a form of disrespect that the white society has earned with its racist and economic brutality and unfairness!!! Steve Well I've heard a lot of weird stuff but labeling Cosby as a racist is quite amusing. Besides what you're not getting, is the form of "disrespect" that you think hurts white America is really just hurting black America. It isn't hurting those they think they are hurting. That is what Cosby is trying to say In case you haven't figured it out yet, R. Steve Walz pretty much likes to tell you the way it is and call people names. Period. Gets old quick. Slainte, Fletch -------------- And scares the racist **** who can't handle it. Steve Case in point. Slainte, Fletch ------------ You SUUURE are! Steve You just can't help yourself. You need to relax. Unless your goal is to get high blood pressure, you're not getting anywhere. Your pathetic style of debate rarely convinces anybody of anything. But please, keep stamping your feet. Slainte, Fletch -------------- Mind your mind, it's defective. Steve "Last word freak." -- Melvin Slainte, Fletch |
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R. Steve Walz wrote:
Holger Dansk wrote: On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 16:24:03 -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: Holger Dansk wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:24:48 -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: and were and had been savages for thousands of years hunting with spears and they may have even had bows and arrows. They ate wildebeest, antelope, monkeys, guineas, hyenas, wild dogs and each other, etc., etc., etc. That is true for all of mankind. Not at all. Haven't you ever heard of the Greek and Roman civilizations, for instance? Yes. And the Greeks and Romans had ancestors who were uncivilized savages who lived by hunting and gathering, just like all other human beings, and most of the evidence indicates that all of these people ultimate had ancestors who lived in Africa. But we don't know what color those ancestors were. The Greek and Roman civilizations existed about 2,000 years ago. They contributed a great deal to the modern world. Duh. But their ancestors came from Africa just like yours. And even long after they lived in Africa, they were "savages for thousands of years hunting with spears and they may have even had bows and arrows." The Greeks had the greatest ancient civilization. According to who? The Chinese probably feel differently. And what about all those European societies that *weren't* Greek in the same timeframe? What were their contributions to the world? All of those thousands of years the black savages in Africa were just savages contributing nothing to the world. 1) Prove that they were savages. 2) Why should they "contribute something to the world"? The world contributed nothing to them. I'm sure that was the thinking of the very few who ever even thought about contributing anything to the world. They did very little thinking about anything except survival and where their next meal was coming from. Any leisure time was probably spent sitting on a termite mound saying "muhfugger". (in their primitive language, of course) Holger http://www.mind****.com/~holger1/holger1.htm --------------------------- You're delusional. We lived exactly that way till we had the where- withall to do better, which only happens little by little, and only randomly as an accidental circumstance that permitted improvement. We are no different than they are genetically, or even culturally, as it was only a sick ignorant vicious streak in our culture that allowed us to enslave people without conscience and to abuse other cultures in the world to steal their resources and conquer another continent from its peaceful resiedents, or we'd be living exactly the same way! There's no nobility to western society, in fact we are far more vicious than most of our victim cultures we looted and pillaged and do still to this day! Or at least we have been, we are finally just in the last 40 years beginning to develop a conscience. Steve We're no different culturally, but it's a vicious streak in our culture that allowed us to ... ???? So, are we all the same? Or are we more vicious? I don't think you have an internally consistent theory here. Slainte, Fletch |
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Holger Dansk wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 02:56:32 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" wrote: Holger Dansk wrote: The Greek and Roman civilizations existed about 2,000 years ago. They contributed a great deal to the modern world. The Greeks had the greatest ancient civilization. All of those thousands of years the black savages in Africa were just savages contributing nothing to the world. Holger http://www.mind****.com/~holger1/holger1.htm -------------------------------- Greeks did nothing but quarrel and fight, the Athenian democracy was impossible without the enslavement of captives taken in often cowardly raids on other more peaceful peoples. Thomas Jefferson studied Aristotle and used his philosophy when he wrote our Constitution. (He was the primary author.) The Greeks put vowels in the alphabet which made language a lot more useful. Mind you, I even LIKE the Romans, and Latin, which I studied for 5 years and can still SPEAK conversationally! Latin is a dead language. Not anyone speaks it. Some priest use it in their services. Some people learn it in order to increase their vocabulary. Many English words are derived from Latin. Reminds me of so many blacks who say they have a college degree and you ask them from where and they say "University of Wedowee" or something like that which not anyone has ever heard of. When you ask them where it is, they say, "Wedowee, AL". Of course, no such university exist. Has this actually ever happened to you? I've never heard of such a thing. You do realize that there are black people who are far smarter than you, right? How does that square with your beliefs? Do you look down on even those who are your intellectual superiors? Slainte, Fletch |
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Holger Dansk wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 03:14:43 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" wrote: Holger Dansk wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:24:48 -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: Holger Dansk wrote: Your ancestors were definitely black We have no idea what color anyone's ancestors were. Yes we do. Black people in America have relatives who are descendants in Africa of the relatives of the black people in America at the time they were captured by black savages in Africa. That sentence makes no sense. But how do you know what color their ancestors were? And how do you know what color their ancestors' ancestors were? I was there. :-) ----------------- You're a lying piece of ****, *I* was there, and I DIDN'T SEE YOU! ... And I see not in my blindness What the objects were I wrought, But as God rules o'er our bickerings It was through His will I fought. So forever in the future, Shall I battle as of yore, Dying to be born a fighter, But to die again, once more. :-) Holger http://www.mind****.com/~holger1/holger1.htm -------------------------- Okay, "Patton". And I knew this was Patton even without searching. Now all you need is a mind to call your own. The thing about this poem by Patton, is that somebody with the least intelligence might have asked why we have to waste our time life after life like that, in futility and ignorant pride. There are much better things to do and glory in. Well, war is really hell, and, compared to war, other forms of human endeavor pale into insignificance. You ever hear of math? (and all that it makes possible) Slainte, Fletch |
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 12:45:17 GMT, "Fletch F. Fletch"
wrote: Holger Dansk wrote: On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 02:56:32 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" wrote: Holger Dansk wrote: The Greek and Roman civilizations existed about 2,000 years ago. They contributed a great deal to the modern world. The Greeks had the greatest ancient civilization. All of those thousands of years the black savages in Africa were just savages contributing nothing to the world. Holger http://www.mind****.com/~holger1/holger1.htm -------------------------------- Greeks did nothing but quarrel and fight, the Athenian democracy was impossible without the enslavement of captives taken in often cowardly raids on other more peaceful peoples. Thomas Jefferson studied Aristotle and used his philosophy when he wrote our Constitution. (He was the primary author.) The Greeks put vowels in the alphabet which made language a lot more useful. Mind you, I even LIKE the Romans, and Latin, which I studied for 5 years and can still SPEAK conversationally! Latin is a dead language. Not anyone speaks it. Some priest use it in their services. Some people learn it in order to increase their vocabulary. Many English words are derived from Latin. Reminds me of so many blacks who say they have a college degree and you ask them from where and they say "University of Wedowee" or something like that which not anyone has ever heard of. When you ask them where it is, they say, "Wedowee, AL". Of course, no such university exist. Has this actually ever happened to you? I've never heard of such a thing. The Georgia Dome security officers do that all the time. You do realize that there are black people who are far smarter than you, right? How does that square with your beliefs? Do you look down on even those who are your intellectual superiors? Why would I look down on them? Why would I look at them at all? I don't think of them. Slainte, Fletch Holger http://www.mindspring.com/~holger1/holger1.htm |
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Holger Dansk wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:06:30 -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: Now answer my question. What in his biography leads you to believe that Vachel Lindsay had any clue how people in Africa live(d)? Most people with any education at all know how horribly black people in Africa have lived for thousands of years. Most people with any REAL education at all know that they have no more clue how black people lived in Africa for thousands of years than they have how northern people lived in Scandinavia for thousands of years. My father-in-law knows first hand. He went on several safaris and drunk blood with the Masai, etc. Tourists don't know "first hand". They do have a chance for more of a clue than you have, but not much of one. It is a life too horrible to imagine. I doubt it. lojbab -- lojbab Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group (Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.) Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org |
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Holger Dansk wrote:
Evidence is to the contrary. What evidence is indicative of them doing anything productive whatsoever? They are alive. They carved some ugly figures out of wood. Hooray!!! They probably think your artwork is pretty ugly too. Just sat on that termite mound saying, "muhfugger", muhfugger", all day, Did your father-in-law testify to this? Any leisure time was probably spent sitting on a termite mound saying "muhfugger". (in their primitive language, of course) Their language is no more primitive than yours, of course. I didn't live a thousand years ago. Language a thousand years ago was no more primitive than it is today. (Latin was big some 2000 years ago, of course). I'm speaking of what they did for thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of years. Primitive means "old" or "primeval". Not as an adjective on "language". lojbab -- lojbab Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group (Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.) Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org |
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Holger Dansk wrote:
The Greeks put vowels in the alphabet which made language a lot more useful. Are you claiming that Hebrew, the language of the Bible, and Arabic, the language of the Qur'an, are not "useful"? lojbab -- lojbab Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group (Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.) Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org |
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