Junker: What about these statistics...!

Vigilante wrote:

On 27 Aug 2005 07:28:22 -0700, "dratster"
wrote:

How is it that you can advocate personal responsibility in one breath,
and then advance the theory of group culpability in the next breath?"

(Heaving sigh) Why must everything be reduced to "One or the other"?
Personal behavior is both an individual and peer group responsibility.
Even though you're not a gangsta, if you don't your part to discourage
such behavior, you share in the guilt.
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Just as YOU do, you stupid ****! He's NO MORE vaguely "responsible"
than YOU are, and if you're a ****ing RACIST, and he's not, then
you're even WAAAAY MORE SO!!


Another thing, if you see one person speaking who is Black, why do you
immediately believe that person is speaking for all of us?

Because we never hear the "vast majority" of ******s disassociate
themselves from the likes of Jackson and Sharpton.
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That's because Jackson and Sharpton are ALSO not "responsible", they
are saying to YOU what *I* JUST SAID TO YOU!! That it is RACISM and
RACISTS that are WAAAAY MORE responsible than ANYBODY ELSE!!!


Far from it, we
often see scenes of ******s silently nodding in agreement.
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You little racist ****. How dare you smarm out "******" this and
"******" that when you're the ****ing cause of it ALL!


What of
that spontanteous cheer that went up from the negro community when OJ
was acquited?
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Do you REALLY pretend that you DON'T KNOW what that was about after
hundreds of years of black railroadings and LYNCHINGS!?????? You
racist ****!


It does little good to go around now and say "Oh well,
we knew he was guilty all along".
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They KNEW he was guilty, they were just glad to see **** like you
puke about one of them getting away with KILLING ONE OF YOU WHITE
****!!! And as long as you act that way, that WILL CONTINUE, and
YOU STARTED IT ALL!! You can't enslave a people for hundreds of
years and then demand the right to hate them for it without them
wanting to kill all of you!


And look how ******s line up to cheer Jacko.
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And THEY'RE even MORE homophobic than ignorant **** like YOU are!!!!
That SHOULD tell you SOMETHING, that they could hold their nose and
STILL do that, means that they hate you with a murderous RAGE!! Now
you have to wonder where that comes from, and if YOU THINK (HAH, you
**** can't THINK!) you'll KNOW!!


Not because they believe him to be innocent, but because
he beat the rap like OJ. As long as this is how ******s think, then we
whites have every right to ridicule you.
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When they are systematically railroaded every day, you can't seriously
expect anything else, and YOU'D ACT THE VERY SAME IF IT WERE REVERSED!
Steve

Judge Joe wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:04:57 GMT, Roger roger@. wrote:

And that's not even taking into account the fact that a black male is
more likely to be arrested, more likely to be found guilty, and will
serve more time than a white man.

If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime.
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You missed the point, just like the inbred slack-jawed racist moron
you are. The "time" is doled out in a racist manner, and blacks are
the most likely to later be freed by appeal, review of the case or
DNA evidence proving that they were racially convicted, and not
justly so!!
Steve

Judge Joe wrote:

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:16:56 GMT, Roger roger@. wrote:

In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Judge Joe wrote
in message
1125222198.7221e46d15c507b30720a35a967bf160@bubb anews:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:59:54 GMT, Roger roger@. wrote:

And that's not even taking into account the fact that a black male is
more likely to be arrested, more likely to be found guilty, and will
serve more time than a white man.

If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime.

Or at least, don't be black, since you are demonstrably more likely to
be arrested than a white man, more likely to be found guilty than a
white man, and will serve more time for the same crime than a white
man.

Cites.

http://www.komotv.com/stories/28587.htm

"Black Drug Dealers More Likely To Be Arrested"

http://www.peace.ca/truthaboutblackcrime.htm

"The National Institute of Drug Abuse estimated that while 12 percent
of drug users are black, they make up nearly 50 percent of all drug
possession arrests in the U.S. (The Black and White of Justice,
Freedom Magazine, Volume 128)"

"According to the National Drug Strategy Network, although African
Americans make up less than one-third of the population in Georgia,
the black arrest rate for drugs is five times greater than the white
arrest rate. In addition, since 1990, African Americans have accounted
for more than 75% of persons incarcerated for drug offenses in Georgia
and make up 97.7% of the people in that state who are given life
sentences for drug offenses. "

Seem to recall that this drug arrest study was flawed because it
failed to include the fact that blacks were more likely to 1) evade
and 2) resist arrest.

Did you hear anything in that regard?
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No, and neither did you, you liar!
Steve

Way Back Jack wrote:

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 02:56:26 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

You little racist ****. How dare you smarm out "******" this and
"******" that when you're the ****ing cause of it ALL!

Actually, the white liberal who desires to keep them doped-up,
dumbed-down, and dependent on them should bear much of the blame.
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You're a ****-****ing liar, you bigot.


You libs got your own little 21st minstrel show going.

Do you REALLY pretend that you DON'T KNOW what that was about after
hundreds of years of black railroadings and LYNCHINGS!?????? You
racist ****!

Time to disillusion another whigroe:

Myth #3
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More of your ****-****ing bigot-lies.
Steve

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 01:11:55 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

Way Back Jack wrote:

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 02:56:26 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

You little racist ****. How dare you smarm out "******" this and
"******" that when you're the ****ing cause of it ALL!

Actually, the white liberal who desires to keep them doped-up,
dumbed-down, and dependent on them should bear much of the blame.
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You're a ****-****ing liar, you bigot.


You libs got your own little 21st minstrel show going.

Do you REALLY pretend that you DON'T KNOW what that was about after
hundreds of years of black railroadings and LYNCHINGS!?????? You
racist ****!

Time to disillusion another whigroe:

Myth #3
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More of your ****-****ing bigot-lies.
Steve

Your disillusionment must be awful painful.

More education, whigga:

Myth #2



American slavery (white-on-black) is uniquely wicked in world history






One of the most productive effects of David Horowitz’s 2001 campaign
against reparations for slavery was his publicizing some inconvenient
facts about the institution. Slavery was a universal institution first
stopped by whites, and blacks who came to America were already slaves
of Arabs or other blacks. While every American child learns about
white-on-black slavery, other forms of slavery that are more prevalent
and still practiced are ignored. In fact, black-on-black and
Arab-on-black slavery still exists today in parts of Africa such as
the Sudan and Mauritania and in the black Caribbean nation of Haiti.







A few proponents of reparations tried to answer Horowtiz by stating
that African slavery was benign compared to Western slavery. Typical
of this line of thought is the following passage from Randall
Robinson’s reparations manifesto, The Debt (2000): “While King Affonso
[of Kongo] was no stranger to slavery, which was practiced throughout
most of the known world, he had understood slavery as a condition
befalling prisoners of war, criminals, and debtors, out of which
slaves could earn, or even marry, their way. This was nothing like
seeing this wholly new and brutal commercial practice of slavery where
tens of thousands of his subjects were dragged off in chains.”







Dorothy Benton-Lewis, head of the National Coalition for Reparations
against Blacks, claims that only white slavers were racist and brutal:
“It is American slavery that put a color on slavery. And American
slavery is not like the slavery of Africa or ancient times. This was
dehumanizing, brutal and barbaric slavery that subjugated people and
turned them into a profit.”







The claims of Robinson and Benton-Lewis are widely believed but are
simply not true. Orlando Patterson studied 55 slave societies for his
1982 book Slavery and Social Death: A Comparative Study (1982). He
writes:







“It has often been remarked that slavery in the Americas is unique in
the primary role of race as a factor in determining the condition and
treatment of slaves. This statement betrays an appalling ignorance of
the comparative data on slave societies. . . . Throughout the Islamic
world, for instance, race was a vital issue. The light-skinned Tuareg
and related groups had decidedly racist attitudes towards the Negroes
they conquered. Throughout the Islamic empires, European and Turkish
slaves were treated quite differently from slaves south of the Sahara
Desert. . . . Slavery [in Africa] was more than simply
“subordination”; it was considered a degraded condition, reinforced by
racist attitudes among the Arab slave owners.”







Writing on African slavery before 1600, the historian Paul Lovejoy
notes: “For those who were enslaved, the dangers involved forced
marches, inadequate food, sexual abuse, and death on the road.”







In his book on the reparations battle, Uncivil Wars (2002) Horowitz
adds:







“In fact Africa’s internal slave trade, which did not involve the
United States or any European power, not only extended over the entire
500 years mentioned by Robinson, but also preceded it by nearly 1,000
years. In the period between 650 and 1600, before any Western
involvement, somewhere between 3 million and 10 million Africans were
bought by Muslim slavers for use in Saharan societies and in the trade
in the Indian Ocean and Red Sea. By contrast, the enslavement of
blacks in the United States lasted 89 years, from 1776 until 1865. The
combined slave trade to the British colonies in North America and
later to the United States accounted for less than 3 percent of the
global trade in African slaves. The total number of slaves imported to
North America was 800,000, less than the slave trade to the island of
Cuba alone. If the internal African slave trade-which began in the
seventh century and persists to this day in the Sudan, Mauritania and
other sub-Saharan states-is taken into account, the responsibility of
American traders shrinks to a fraction of 1 percent of the slavery
problem.”







African tribes were some of the fiercest defenders of slavery when
whites tried to outlaw the practice in the 19th century. Blacks in
present-day Ghana rioted against the British as they destroyed the
slave ports along Africa’s western coast. In 1808, the King of Bonny
(now Nigeria) told the British: “You’re country, however great, can
never stop a trade ordained by God himself.”







One of America’s most famous black novelists, Zora Neale Hurston had a
very different perspective on slavery than today’s reparations
activists: “The white people held my people in slavery here in
America. They bought us, it is true, and exploited us. But the
inescapable fact that stuck in my craw was [that] my people had sold
me. … My own people had exterminated whole nations and tore families
apart for profit before the strangers got their chance at a cut. It
was a sobering thought. It impressed upon me the universal nature of
greed and glory."







Unfortunately, school children are more likely to get the distorted
Randall Robinson version of slavery than they are to get the more
accurate and poetic version put forward by Zora Neale Hurston.
Ironically, slavery is making a return to America primarily due to
African immigrants bringing their traditional customs with them. In
the last year alone, several immigrants from Cameroon have been
sentenced for keeping other Cameroonians as slaves. In one
particularly gruesome case, African immigrants Louisa Satia and Kevin
Nanji were sentenced to nine years in prison for beating, raping and
torturing their teenage slave. African slavery is becoming so
commonplace in America that the Attorney General has set up something
called the Trafficking in Persons and Worker Exploitation Task Force
to help put a stop to it.

Way Back Jack wrote:

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:25:53 GMT, "junkhunter"
wrote:

Get your head out of the sand and see whats going on in the US.

Oh, OK.

Black/White Street Crime Ratios:

Murder/neg. msltr.: 5.39/1
Forcible Rape: 2.89/1
Robbery: 6.55/1
Aggravated assault: 2.88/1
Burglary: 2.45/1
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And for you to blame crime on socioeconomics, please note that the
poverty rate in a recent year does not correlate well with the crime
rates.
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The effects are maturation-delayed, and modulated by other factors,
such as the degree of HATE you bigots have promulgated in those
populations. It doesn't HAVE to correlate in any given period, since
we ALL KNOW why they do it, and that if we had the same **** done
to US, that WE would do it EXACTLY THE SAME THING! For you to
pretend that you WOULDN'T is the LIE of Racism!

This is what you ****-licking racist SCUM are so DESPERATE to ignore,
namely, that their feelings, motives, and actions are JUSTIFIED and
ENTIRELY understandable by HUMANS as a NORMAL response to what they
have suffered at YOUR hands and through your effects on society!!
Steve

junkhunter wrote:

Why are all the looters I see ******s?
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Because it wouldn't make sense for the people who own the store to
steal from it, you stupid racist ****head!
Steve

Way Back Jack wrote:

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:25:53 GMT, "junkhunter"
wrote:

Get your head out of the sand and see whats going on in the US.

What's happening in the US is that despite 40 years of racial
preferences such as affirmative action,.... black criminality,
immorality, and animalistic behavior are worse than ever.
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You were the animalistic scum who promulgated racism, not them.

What they do to wreak revenge on you is JUSTIFIED by what YOU
did, not immoral, but justified, not criminal at all, but wholly
understandable by anyone with a BRAIN! And no more animalistic
than YOUR RACISM is!
Steve

I. M. White wrote:

"Bob LeChevalier" wrote in message
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(Judge Joe) wrote:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:51:51 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
wrote

Silly wigger!
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You're a ****-licking little racist turd.
Steve

******crusher wrote:

******s only care about TNB, NOT statistics

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You have just been crushed SAMBO gutter apes, by the ******CRUSHER.
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You're another ignorant little teenybopper with a micro-penis.
Steve