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Old February 22nd 04, 12:29 AM
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"Betty" wrote in message
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Bev wrote:
I have two very different children as well, My first in no way prepared
me for the second ! LOL! Jessica is the one that it all came to easy ,
Sara has learning disabilities and so also has an IEP.



My son also has an IEP and is being tested for ADD. I don't know if he
actually has ADD, or is just being 8, but I know with the IEP, at least he
gets extra help at school.
He works with the resource teacher twice a week right now, and if he is
diagnosed as ADD, will get extra time with her and also the school
psychologist.

I know people hate to have their kids labelled, but if means my kid will get
extra help, then I'm all for having a label applied to him.

Our big thing is reading and retention.
He is ok in other subjects, but he has a really hard time with reading. He
is supposed to read for at least 15 minutes every day, and it is a constant
battle to get even that much from him.
He also has a hard time retaining information he has learned.
He always does really well on spelling test (usually 100%), but will not
remember the word 2 days down the line.
This leads me think it might not be ADD he has, but some other form of
learning disability.

B



Betty, does he take medication?
Just curious,
V


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Old February 22nd 04, 01:19 AM
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'Kate wrote in message ...
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 19:30:16 GMT, "Betty"

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Does he get enough sleep? 8-10 hours?
How is he at remembering verbal lists?



He gets a minimum of 8 hours sleep, Usually 10-11.
Ok, Mom's showing her ignorance here, what is a verbal list? Please don't
say it's a list of verbs, then I'll know how dumb I am.

Betty


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Old February 22nd 04, 01:19 AM
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Our big thing is reading and retention.

He is ok in other subjects, but he has a really hard time with reading.

He
is supposed to read for at least 15 minutes every day, and it is a

constant
battle to get even that much from him.
He also has a hard time retaining information he has learned.
He always does really well on spelling test (usually 100%), but will not
remember the word 2 days down the line.
This leads me think it might not be ADD he has, but some other form of
learning disability.

B



Betty, does he take medication?
Just curious,



The occasional Motrin or cold medication, but nothing on a regular basis.
Betty


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Old February 22nd 04, 02:17 AM
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'Kate wrote in message

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 19:30:16 GMT, "Betty"

He gets a minimum of 8 hours sleep, Usually 10-11.

Ok, Mom's showing her ignorance here, what is a verbal list? Please don't
say it's a list of verbs, then I'll know how dumb I am.



Ok, disregard this response. Sometimes the level of my stupidity amazes
even me.LOL
You meant verbal as in oral, right?
Sorry, we are working on parts of speech right now, and my mind was there
when I answered your question.

He doesn't really do verbal lists so I'm not really sure how he does.

We do most of his spelling practice tests verbally, and he does well, but
like I said, he loses it a few days later.

I bought him a new computer game, that is supposed to help with reading and
writing skills. He was playing it today, and kept coming in and asking how
to spell things.
When he did, I would say " How do you think you spell it?" and he would get
it right almost every time.
I think a lot of his problem is just laziness and not wanting to spend a
few seconds to think about his answer.

B


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Old February 22nd 04, 03:01 AM
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Group: alt.support.single-parents Date: Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 2:41am
(EST+5) From: (V)

It is driving me crazy! I have tried everything to encourage my son to
do his work from school. He doddles. I take away privlidges, games, etc.
to no avail. OMG I feel like an evil mother about 9 pm (my time) when it
is not done. Any suggestions?
V


Bev wrote:
I have two very different children as well, My first in no way prepared
me for the second ! LOL! Jessica is the one that it all came to easy ,
Sara has learning disabilities and so also has an IEP.
Homework time with Sara was a very frustrating time for both of us,
From the 4th grade on was a struggle and I was told her disabilities are
what made it hard. I was told to do exactly what everyone here has
suggested, taking out the distractions was a big improvement. Right or
wrong what I did was make a schedule around her. I gave her an hour
after school to unwind and get a break from that stuff, We would use
the kitchen so that I could go back and forth from preparing dinner, and
be there in the same room, if it was more difficult I would leave the
meal go ( a good idea is to have stuff prepared in advance in your
freezer and pop it in the oven ! Some nights cereal was supper and that
is O.K. on occasion. A limit of time spent was good so we would divide
the work up in piles and say this is first and after a break we will do
that etc. this encouraged her cause she knew another break was coming
After eating I let her have more free time , and I also found any
reading was good to save to last when we could cuddle up in the big
chair and share some really good time together ! Of course as she got
bigger the chair really became uncomfortable. Hope this helps, just
remember it takes a lot of patience and with a bit of organization some
of the stress will be relieved. Good luck . Bev


Thank you Bev. The groups reaction of moving anything distracting was also
something my sister (who was a child counselor) told me to do as well. She
also said stay close, yet as Joelle said, natural consequences will also

play
a part.
This has been ongoing since he was in school. I have not set up an IEP but

it
might be needed with Aspberger's Syndrome. He has a mild case, and the
psychiatrist and I decided until it got bad to then do it. Frankly I just

do
not know if this is part of the autism or if it is just his nature. And

also
it amazes me how a child can memorize everything about the solar system

and
get frustrated with timed math problems.
Take care,
V



Kids usually excel at one area and math isn't his best subject. That he is
autistic explains a lot. I have not read every post here but I assume he
gets special tutoring?

T


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Old February 22nd 04, 03:04 PM
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Group: alt.support.single-parents Date: Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 2:41am
(EST+5) From: (V)

V wrote:
Thank you Bev. The groups reaction of moving anything distracting was
also something my sister (who was a child counselor) told me to do as
well. She also said stay close,

YW.....


V wrote:
yet as Joelle said, natural consequences will also play a part.
This has been ongoing since he was in school.

Yeah natural consequences, we did that too, somehow I felt punished as

well when I had to get up early on a Sat morning to drive her to
detention !


V wrote:
I have not set up an IEP but it might be needed with Aspberger's
Syndrome. He has a mild case, and the psychiatrist and I decided until
it got bad to then do it. Frankly I just do not know if this is part of
the autism or if it is just his nature.

I have recently learned a lot about Autism, My partner Mari works as a
caretaker to a 30 year old autistic woman
(which Mari calls a child) I didn't get it until she brought her home to
visit with us. Now I know where she gets the patience she has ! It takes
special people to care for the severe cases of Autism.
It could be something connected to the autism, I know in severe cases
sitting still is not an option, concentration is very limited, when
they're done with an activity that is it, over and if they do not get
their way self injurious behaviors begin.

V wrote:
And also it amazes me how a child can memorize everything about the
solar system and get frustrated with timed math problems.
Take care,
V


Yeah me too ! what I do know from experience with Sara is the more

difficult things are for her the easier she gives up , Her diagnosis
bugs the heck out of me "perceptually impaired" The school psychologist
said it is a broad diagnosis of all learning disabilities , when I asked
what that meant. So they had no real name for exactly what she "has" She
is limited in spelling (still spells phonetically) reading, last test
results has her at a sixth grade level (she is a junior in H.S.) She has
difficulty in Math as well (especially written word math problems) Her
IEP has her main streamed for electives and science , social studies ,
health and phys. ed . spelling reading and Math she has in class
support, which is "special classes" and there are at times many
distractions, because there are behavioral problems as well which I am
told kids with learning difficulties "act out more" they are frustrated.
There is more than one teacher in these classes or there is no more than
10 students in them, to give more individual attention to each student.
I have been in these class rooms and I have witnessed the
behaviors............ my daughters as well , it is rough and I don't
know where they need to draw the line on this but I don't see mixing the
bad behaviors (I mean just bad) with the kids that are trying?? Recently
in her math class, a couple boys decided it was bash all races and
sexualities..... So the teacher decided to use racism as a math lesson
up on the chalk board :
N - cracker = ? My daughter was offended by the activities in the class
that day stuck it out as long as she could (about 20 min left of class)
and just walked out and went to the principal and told him how she felt
offended. The next day she is being given detention for walking out of
class, I ask the principal "and what punishment is the boys that were
using racial and discriminative remarks getting ?" and How about the
inappropriate actions of the Teacher that in my opinion should of
removed the boys and taught Math instead of encouraging the disrespect
to the other students? I get "I'll have to speak to the teacher about
that, and the boys IEP's prevent them from punishing them for their
behaviour!!"
HELLO ?????? somethings wrong????
Time to go to the school ...........AGAIN !
Bev

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Old February 22nd 04, 03:45 PM
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"Bebe lestrnge" wrote in message
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Group: alt.support.single-parents Date: Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 2:41am
(EST+5) From: (V)

It is driving me crazy! I have tried everything to encourage my son to
do his work from school. He doddles. I take away privlidges, games, etc.
to no avail. OMG I feel like an evil mother about 9 pm (my time) when it
is not done. Any suggestions?
V


Bev wrote:
I have two very different children as well, My first in no way prepared
me for the second ! LOL! Jessica is the one that it all came to easy ,
Sara has learning disabilities and so also has an IEP.
Homework time with Sara was a very frustrating time for both of us,
From the 4th grade on was a struggle and I was told her disabilities are
what made it hard. I was told to do exactly what everyone here has
suggested, taking out the distractions was a big improvement. Right or
wrong what I did was make a schedule around her. I gave her an hour
after school to unwind and get a break from that stuff, We would use
the kitchen so that I could go back and forth from preparing dinner, and
be there in the same room, if it was more difficult I would leave the
meal go ( a good idea is to have stuff prepared in advance in your
freezer and pop it in the oven ! Some nights cereal was supper and that
is O.K. on occasion. A limit of time spent was good so we would divide
the work up in piles and say this is first and after a break we will do
that etc. this encouraged her cause she knew another break was coming
After eating I let her have more free time , and I also found any
reading was good to save to last when we could cuddle up in the big
chair and share some really good time together ! Of course as she got
bigger the chair really became uncomfortable. Hope this helps, just
remember it takes a lot of patience and with a bit of organization some
of the stress will be relieved. Good luck . Bev


Thank you Bev. The groups reaction of moving anything distracting was also
something my sister (who was a child counselor) told me to do as well. She
also said stay close, yet as Joelle said, natural consequences will also

play
a part.
This has been ongoing since he was in school. I have not set up an IEP but

it
might be needed with Aspberger's Syndrome. He has a mild case, and the
psychiatrist and I decided until it got bad to then do it. Frankly I just

do
not know if this is part of the autism or if it is just his nature. And

also
it amazes me how a child can memorize everything about the solar system

and
get frustrated with timed math problems.
Take care,
V



Kids usually excel at one area and math isn't his best subject. That he is
autistic explains a lot. I have not read every post here but I assume he
gets special tutoring?

T


No Tiffany, and I have thought seriously about tutoring. He is brilliant. His
memorization is amazing. My other child gets special tutoring because she is
in the "gifted" child programs, but John has not been considered. The thing he
hates is "timed" test. The thing that is upsetting is that he gets the
concept, but is not timely.
V


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Old February 22nd 04, 03:46 PM
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'Kate wrote in message ...
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:21:50 GMT, "V"

His teacher would tap over and over on their foreheads to get blood to

their
brains. I had a conference with her about his. I did not like my child
repeatedly having someone thug him on the forhead. She made it seems as

though
I overreacted, but with his connective tissue disorder and the fact I teach
them no one is to touch them, especially painfully and then...well, I am
confused myself, but I did not like it at all. How would you guys have

handled
this situation?
curiously,
V


She is a teacher with odd ideas. Why doesn't she just teach them how to
stand on their heads if the purpose is to get blood up to the brain. Or
tighten their leg muscles. I don't know what she thinks blood has to do
with the process of thinking other than if you're out of blood, it's
impossible to think.

It's best that you exposed her practice. I wouldn't like anyone doing
that to me and being stuck in a classroom, being subjected to a bizarre
"technique" of some sort based on an unproven theory would be awful.

'Kate

Kate: I spoke to her in "front" of the principal. Nothing is being done.
Crazy uh?
V


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Old February 22nd 04, 04:26 PM
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"V" wrote in message
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"Betty" wrote in message
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"V" wrote in message
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10 years old and the amount of homework is amazing!
Whoo..


My son is in grade 3, and get less homework now than when he was in

first
grade.

In first grade, he used to get an hour or more worth of home work every
night until a few parents wrote to the principal and complained.

The teacher was a real academic (and B*tch), and should NOT have been
teaching primary children.
She made more than one parent cry, not to mention the kids.

Thank goodness she is no longer at our school.

Betty


His teacher would tap over and over on their foreheads to get blood to

their
brains. I had a conference with her about his. I did not like my child
repeatedly having someone thug him on the forhead. She made it seems as

though
I overreacted, but with his connective tissue disorder and the fact I

teach
them no one is to touch them, especially painfully and then...well, I am
confused myself, but I did not like it at all. How would you guys have

handled
this situation?
curiously,
V



Hmmmmm I probably would have tapped the teacher on the head.... with a
SLEDGE HAMMER...
Ok perhaps not but the thought is there.... I WOULD have wrote a lovely
letter of complaint to the school board, principal, editors of every
paper... I would have contacted other parents to make sure that my child was
not the only one being treated in this manner... and if I found out that
he/she was THEN I would get the sledge hammer.... ummmmm ok so I wouldn't
use the hammer... I would vocalize... Oh yes... I would vocalize LOUDLY and
I would NOT stop until the teacher was reprimanded and retired... Now I'm
assuming this tap-tap-tap was happening infront of the entire class? How
Degrading and demoralizing and how disstructive to ones self confidence and
OMG I could just go on and on.... Anyone want the sledge hammer for me?

Ahhhhhhh curious as to exactly what you DID do?

Sign me,
Upset where's my hammer?
Kim


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Old February 22nd 04, 04:27 PM
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