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On 9/27/10 7:53 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 5:25 AM, carole wrote: Wrong again. Blood purity and lack of toxins (orthopathic definition) is what helps the immune system. Blood purity can be achieved by proper nutrition and help prevent against all sorts of microbes, harmful bacteria, fungi and parasites. You're talking about dumbed-down allopathic medicine ...I'm talking alternative medicine. You don't know what you're talking about at all. Alternative medicine is conjecture-based medicine (con-med) by definition. There is no evidence for it. Wrong again dr not doc. Once we get real medicine, the importance of nutritional cures will be acknowledged. The importance of nutritional cures has already been acknowledged. For real vitamin deficiencies, protein deficiencies, etc., a proper diet reverses those deficiencies. However, for treating other diseases, nutritional cures don't work. If they do work, show us the science. The problem is dr no doc I have developed my thinking through alternative avenues and my own experience. No help whatsoever from your "scientific sources". You've got that right, although I wouldn't call what you do, "thinking." And you're right about not developing it through scientific sources. Instead, you developed it through unreliable, unproven sources. But you want me to change my whole orientation and begin to give you scientific evidence. Gee, you're posting to sci.med, short for science.medicine. That should give you a hint that using science is appropriate in the newsgroup. If scientific evidence worked for me I wouldn't have had to figure out all my health solutions out for myself. That's a stupid comment. You've no clue about science or medicine. I have spent years working this stuff out and have come to the conclusion that scientific medicine is geared to suit the pharmaceutical business with disease rather than cure anybody of anything. Yes, there are some good people working in the system is hopelessly broken and corrupt. You're wrong. There is no better way than science to understand how the body works or nature works. So what I have figured out so far is that the soil theory is more important than the germ theory, homeopathy, nutritional remedies and detoxing are good. Yeap, you just demonstrated you have no clue. Giving water (homeopathy) to cure a disease doesn't work. Nor do "soil theory," "nutritional remedies" or "detoxing" work. They are good for the liars selling them. Nutritional remedies can cure disease from microbes, bacteria, fungi and parasites. No, it can't. Scientific evidence is a skeptic tool, designed to screen out anything not approved by the pharmaceutical cartel. No, scientific evidence is a science designed to screen out things that don't work or are not true. Not the dumbed-down crap that treats deficiency diseases with drugs and waits until diseases reach crisis stage before being able to offer a solution. Please describe what these "deficiency diseases" are, give some examples, and explain how the nutritional cures work. Don't forget to back your claims with science. One deficiency disease is underarm odour which is a deficiency of silica. That is a stupid statement. Silica is also beneficial for bone growth and arterial health, amongst other things. Silica is harmful and can cause inflamation if inside the body. It is not absorbed by the body. Therefore underarm odour is indication of a health problem. Go walk into a middle school or a high school after gym. If what you say, the entire gym class would be about to die. Jeff |
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"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 7:53 AM, carole wrote: wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 5:25 AM, carole wrote: If they do work, show us the science. The problem is dr no doc I have developed my thinking through alternative avenues and my own experience. No help whatsoever from your "scientific sources". You've got that right, although I wouldn't call what you do, "thinking." And you're right about not developing it through scientific sources. Instead, you developed it through unreliable, unproven sources. You draw your conclusion, I'll draw mine which is that medical science has been rigged to support pharmaceutical solutions firstly through massive donations to medical schools by the Rockefeller foundation, then through operations like AMA and other pharmaceutical backed organisations that like to destroy any opposition to their business with disease. And since when do you do any thinking ...unless you refer to your absorbing and regurgitating? Why do you think that some diseases are cured by nutrients (eg scurvy, beri beri) and some not? Could it be that all disease is deficiency disease, if not, why not? But you want me to change my whole orientation and begin to give you scientific evidence. Gee, you're posting to sci.med, short for science.medicine. That should give you a hint that using science is appropriate in the newsgroup. Well gee to you mate, you're posting to misc.health.alternative - so same back at ya. If scientific evidence worked for me I wouldn't have had to figure out all my health solutions out for myself. That's a stupid comment. You've no clue about science or medicine. Well derr, I do you know. What I know is that they ignore little complaints and call people hypocondriacs until something full blown and deadly turns up. then they use chemo, radiation and surgery to do further damage. I have spent years working this stuff out and have come to the conclusion that scientific medicine is geared to suit the pharmaceutical business with disease rather than cure anybody of anything. Yes, there are some good people working in the system is hopelessly broken and corrupt. You're wrong. There is no better way than science to understand how the body works or nature works. Rubbish. So what I have figured out so far is that the soil theory is more important than the germ theory, homeopathy, nutritional remedies and detoxing are good. Yeap, you just demonstrated you have no clue. Giving water (homeopathy) to cure a disease doesn't work. Nor do "soil theory," "nutritional remedies" or "detoxing" work. Homeopathy isn't water goon. You're clueless about alternative remedies - why do you post to this ng? They are good for the liars selling them. Your allopathic medicine is the crap. Nutritional remedies can cure disease from microbes, bacteria, fungi and parasites. No, it can't. Yes it can idiot. Scientific evidence is a skeptic tool, designed to screen out anything not approved by the pharmaceutical cartel. No, scientific evidence is a science designed to screen out things that don't work or are not true. Scientific medicine uses skeptics to do its dirty work. It removes any evidence that alternative works then gets the skeptics to debunk it. I have heard that the illuminati don't ever get their hands dirty but use front men or organisations to do their dirty work. This would be a prime example -- skeptics debunking alternative medicine. Not the dumbed-down crap that treats deficiency diseases with drugs and waits until diseases reach crisis stage before being able to offer a solution. Please describe what these "deficiency diseases" are, give some examples, and explain how the nutritional cures work. Don't forget to back your claims with science. One deficiency disease is underarm odour which is a deficiency of silica. That is a stupid statement. Only in the eyes of the stupid. Silica is also beneficial for bone growth and arterial health, amongst other things. Silica is harmful and can cause inflamation if inside the body. It is not absorbed by the body. Get a clue errol. Studies have shown that silica is a vital nutrient, go do some homework in pubmed or one of your research books. Therefore underarm odour is indication of a health problem. Go walk into a middle school or a high school after gym. If what you say, the entire gym class would be about to die. Not about to die, but with a silica deficiency yes. And they don't know it because the truth about nutrition is kept from them. -- carole www.conspiracee.com "Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt (1759-1806) |
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"Bob Officer" wrote in message ... On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:26:25 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, "carole" wrote: Wrong again. Blood purity and lack of toxins (orthopathic definition) is what helps the immune system. Blood purity can be achieved by proper nutrition and help prevent against all sorts of microbes, harmful bacteria, fungi and parasites. You're talking about dumbed-down allopathic medicine ...I'm talking alternative medicine. Which is about as dumb as you can get. In my short absence, I am glad you've been busy, as Mr Samuel Langhorne Clemens aptly said, "...Removing all doubt." I thought it had been unusually pleasant around here. It had a pleasant time. I saw some friends off for the "puddle jump" this year. In two more I will joining them. Why don't you take a longer break next time. It is the plans, by then technology will have given us lost cost data access while at sea. Glad you had a nice time. Now to counter what passes as your half witty repartee, Why didn't you spend the time educating yourself. I see if anything you've been drunk at the "Well of Fallacies" again... what a great name for a college oriented pub! No, they're not fallacies ...merely the suppression of real medicine in favour of crap medicine, courtesy of the pharmaceutical business with disease. You know about the four humours? That is what today's allopathic medicine will look like in 100 years. -- carole www.conspiracee.com "Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt (1759-1806) |
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On 9/28/10 6:50 PM, carole wrote:
"Bob wrote in message ... Now to counter what passes as your half witty repartee, Why didn't you spend the time educating yourself. I see if anything you've been drunk at the "Well of Fallacies" again...what a great name for a college oriented pub! No, they're not fallacies ...merely the suppression of real medicine in favour of crap medicine, courtesy of the pharmaceutical business with disease. Really? The pharmaceutical industry does not determine which journal articles are published. Further, with the internet, they can't surpress anything. Rather, modern medicine and science require that hypotheses and theories be supported with evidence. You know about the four humours? That is what today's allopathic medicine will look like in 100 years. There is a great book called, "Doctors" by Sherwin Nuland. He talks about the origins of the four humours. The four humours are a classic example of ignorance of how the body works. That you support this ancient and disproven idea says volumes about your inability to understand science and medicine. Jeff |
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On 9/28/10 6:48 PM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 7:53 AM, carole wrote: wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 5:25 AM, carole wrote: If they do work, show us the science. The problem is dr no doc I have developed my thinking through alternative avenues and my own experience. No help whatsoever from your "scientific sources". You've got that right, although I wouldn't call what you do, "thinking." And you're right about not developing it through scientific sources. Instead, you developed it through unreliable, unproven sources. You draw your conclusion, I'll draw mine which is that medical science has been rigged to support pharmaceutical solutions firstly through massive donations to medical schools by the Rockefeller foundation, then through operations like AMA and other pharmaceutical backed organisations that like to destroy any opposition to their business with disease. And since when do you do any thinking ...unless you refer to your absorbing and regurgitating? Why do you think that some diseases are cured by nutrients (eg scurvy, beri beri) and some not? Could it be that all disease is deficiency disease, if not, why not? But you want me to change my whole orientation and begin to give you scientific evidence. Gee, you're posting to sci.med, short for science.medicine. That should give you a hint that using science is appropriate in the newsgroup. Well gee to you mate, you're posting to misc.health.alternative - so same back at ya. If scientific evidence worked for me I wouldn't have had to figure out all my health solutions out for myself. That's a stupid comment. You've no clue about science or medicine. Well derr, I do you know. What I know is that they ignore little complaints and call people hypocondriacs until something full blown and deadly turns up. then they use chemo, radiation and surgery to do further damage. I have spent years working this stuff out and have come to the conclusion that scientific medicine is geared to suit the pharmaceutical business with disease rather than cure anybody of anything. Yes, there are some good people working in the system is hopelessly broken and corrupt. You're wrong. There is no better way than science to understand how the body works or nature works. Rubbish. So what I have figured out so far is that the soil theory is more important than the germ theory, homeopathy, nutritional remedies and detoxing are good. Yeap, you just demonstrated you have no clue. Giving water (homeopathy) to cure a disease doesn't work. Nor do "soil theory," "nutritional remedies" or "detoxing" work. Homeopathy isn't water goon. You're clueless about alternative remedies - why do you post to this ng? They are good for the liars selling them. Your allopathic medicine is the crap. Nutritional remedies can cure disease from microbes, bacteria, fungi and parasites. No, it can't. Yes it can idiot. Scientific evidence is a skeptic tool, designed to screen out anything not approved by the pharmaceutical cartel. No, scientific evidence is a science designed to screen out things that don't work or are not true. Scientific medicine uses skeptics to do its dirty work. It removes any evidence that alternative works then gets the skeptics to debunk it. I have heard that the illuminati don't ever get their hands dirty but use front men or organisations to do their dirty work. This would be a prime example -- skeptics debunking alternative medicine. Not the dumbed-down crap that treats deficiency diseases with drugs and waits until diseases reach crisis stage before being able to offer a solution. Please describe what these "deficiency diseases" are, give some examples, and explain how the nutritional cures work. Don't forget to back your claims with science. One deficiency disease is underarm odour which is a deficiency of silica. That is a stupid statement. Only in the eyes of the stupid. Silica is sand. Sand doesn't smell. There is no need for silica in the human body. Please provide evidence if I am incorrect, including properly performed studies. Silica is also beneficial for bone growth and arterial health, amongst other things. Silica is harmful and can cause inflamation if inside the body. It is not absorbed by the body. Get a clue errol. Studies have shown that silica is a vital nutrient, go do some homework in pubmed or one of your research books. I did. It is a toxin. That's about it. Therefore underarm odour is indication of a health problem. Go walk into a middle school or a high school after gym. If what you say, the entire gym class would be about to die. Not about to die, but with a silica deficiency yes. There is no such thing as silica deficiency, unless you are a Intel-based computer. And they don't know it because the truth about nutrition is kept from them. What truth? Evidence please. You failed to back your claim. That would lead smart people to the conclusion that you don't have a clue. Jeff |
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"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... On 9/28/10 6:48 PM, carole wrote: wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 7:53 AM, carole wrote: wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 5:25 AM, carole wrote: If they do work, show us the science. The problem is dr no doc I have developed my thinking through alternative avenues and my own experience. No help whatsoever from your "scientific sources". You've got that right, although I wouldn't call what you do, "thinking." And you're right about not developing it through scientific sources. Instead, you developed it through unreliable, unproven sources. You draw your conclusion, I'll draw mine which is that medical science has been rigged to support pharmaceutical solutions firstly through massive donations to medical schools by the Rockefeller foundation, then through operations like AMA and other pharmaceutical backed organisations that like to destroy any opposition to their business with disease. And since when do you do any thinking ...unless you refer to your absorbing and regurgitating? Why do you think that some diseases are cured by nutrients (eg scurvy, beri beri) and some not? Could it be that all disease is deficiency disease, if not, why not? But you want me to change my whole orientation and begin to give you scientific evidence. Gee, you're posting to sci.med, short for science.medicine. That should give you a hint that using science is appropriate in the newsgroup. Well gee to you mate, you're posting to misc.health.alternative - so same back at ya. If scientific evidence worked for me I wouldn't have had to figure out all my health solutions out for myself. That's a stupid comment. You've no clue about science or medicine. Well derr, I do you know. What I know is that they ignore little complaints and call people hypocondriacs until something full blown and deadly turns up. then they use chemo, radiation and surgery to do further damage. I have spent years working this stuff out and have come to the conclusion that scientific medicine is geared to suit the pharmaceutical business with disease rather than cure anybody of anything. Yes, there are some good people working in the system is hopelessly broken and corrupt. You're wrong. There is no better way than science to understand how the body works or nature works. Rubbish. So what I have figured out so far is that the soil theory is more important than the germ theory, homeopathy, nutritional remedies and detoxing are good. Yeap, you just demonstrated you have no clue. Giving water (homeopathy) to cure a disease doesn't work. Nor do "soil theory," "nutritional remedies" or "detoxing" work. Homeopathy isn't water goon. You're clueless about alternative remedies - why do you post to this ng? They are good for the liars selling them. Your allopathic medicine is the crap. Nutritional remedies can cure disease from microbes, bacteria, fungi and parasites. No, it can't. Yes it can idiot. Scientific evidence is a skeptic tool, designed to screen out anything not approved by the pharmaceutical cartel. No, scientific evidence is a science designed to screen out things that don't work or are not true. Scientific medicine uses skeptics to do its dirty work. It removes any evidence that alternative works then gets the skeptics to debunk it. I have heard that the illuminati don't ever get their hands dirty but use front men or organisations to do their dirty work. This would be a prime example -- skeptics debunking alternative medicine. Not the dumbed-down crap that treats deficiency diseases with drugs and waits until diseases reach crisis stage before being able to offer a solution. Please describe what these "deficiency diseases" are, give some examples, and explain how the nutritional cures work. Don't forget to back your claims with science. One deficiency disease is underarm odour which is a deficiency of silica. That is a stupid statement. Only in the eyes of the stupid. Silica is sand. Sand doesn't smell. There is no need for silica in the human body. Please provide evidence if I am incorrect, including properly performed studies. Silica, silicon, silicon dioxide, siliclic acid - any of these ring a bell? Silica is also beneficial for bone growth and arterial health, amongst other things. Silica is harmful and can cause inflamation if inside the body. It is not absorbed by the body. Get a clue errol. Studies have shown that silica is a vital nutrient, go do some homework in pubmed or one of your research books. I did. It is a toxin. That's about it. How about silicon dioxide? Therefore underarm odour is indication of a health problem. Go walk into a middle school or a high school after gym. If what you say, the entire gym class would be about to die. Not about to die, but with a silica deficiency yes. There is no such thing as silica deficiency, unless you are a Intel-based computer. This is a trick question right? You are going to accuse me of using the word "silica" instead of "silicon dioxide" right? Sorry, better people than you have tried it, and bob the moron too. -- carole www.conspiracee.com "Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt (1759-1806) |
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"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... On 9/28/10 6:50 PM, carole wrote: "Bob wrote in message ... Now to counter what passes as your half witty repartee, Why didn't you spend the time educating yourself. I see if anything you've been drunk at the "Well of Fallacies" again...what a great name for a college oriented pub! No, they're not fallacies ...merely the suppression of real medicine in favour of crap medicine, courtesy of the pharmaceutical business with disease. Really? The pharmaceutical industry does not determine which journal articles are published. Further, with the internet, they can't surpress anything. don't kid yourself, the mass media, the medical journals, and school textbooks are tightly controlled. Rather, modern medicine and science require that hypotheses and theories be supported with evidence. And for that very reason, they derail alternative therapies on cooked up reasons before they get the chance to do any studies. You know about the four humours? That is what today's allopathic medicine will look like in 100 years. There is a great book called, "Doctors" by Sherwin Nuland. He talks about the origins of the four humours. The four humours are a classic example of ignorance of how the body works. That you support this ancient and disproven idea says volumes about your inability to understand science and medicine. Go back and read for comprehension dr jeff. -- carole www.conspiracee.com "Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt (1759-1806) |
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On 9/28/10 7:49 PM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ... On 9/28/10 6:48 PM, carole wrote: wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 7:53 AM, carole wrote: wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 5:25 AM, carole wrote: If they do work, show us the science. The problem is dr no doc I have developed my thinking through alternative avenues and my own experience. No help whatsoever from your "scientific sources". You've got that right, although I wouldn't call what you do, "thinking." And you're right about not developing it through scientific sources. Instead, you developed it through unreliable, unproven sources. You draw your conclusion, I'll draw mine which is that medical science has been rigged to support pharmaceutical solutions firstly through massive donations to medical schools by the Rockefeller foundation, then through operations like AMA and other pharmaceutical backed organisations that like to destroy any opposition to their business with disease. And since when do you do any thinking ...unless you refer to your absorbing and regurgitating? Why do you think that some diseases are cured by nutrients (eg scurvy, beri beri) and some not? Could it be that all disease is deficiency disease, if not, why not? But you want me to change my whole orientation and begin to give you scientific evidence. Gee, you're posting to sci.med, short for science.medicine. That should give you a hint that using science is appropriate in the newsgroup. Well gee to you mate, you're posting to misc.health.alternative - so same back at ya. If scientific evidence worked for me I wouldn't have had to figure out all my health solutions out for myself. That's a stupid comment. You've no clue about science or medicine. Well derr, I do you know. What I know is that they ignore little complaints and call people hypocondriacs until something full blown and deadly turns up. then they use chemo, radiation and surgery to do further damage. I have spent years working this stuff out and have come to the conclusion that scientific medicine is geared to suit the pharmaceutical business with disease rather than cure anybody of anything. Yes, there are some good people working in the system is hopelessly broken and corrupt. You're wrong. There is no better way than science to understand how the body works or nature works. Rubbish. So what I have figured out so far is that the soil theory is more important than the germ theory, homeopathy, nutritional remedies and detoxing are good. Yeap, you just demonstrated you have no clue. Giving water (homeopathy) to cure a disease doesn't work. Nor do "soil theory," "nutritional remedies" or "detoxing" work. Homeopathy isn't water goon. You're clueless about alternative remedies - why do you post to this ng? They are good for the liars selling them. Your allopathic medicine is the crap. Nutritional remedies can cure disease from microbes, bacteria, fungi and parasites. No, it can't. Yes it can idiot. Scientific evidence is a skeptic tool, designed to screen out anything not approved by the pharmaceutical cartel. No, scientific evidence is a science designed to screen out things that don't work or are not true. Scientific medicine uses skeptics to do its dirty work. It removes any evidence that alternative works then gets the skeptics to debunk it. I have heard that the illuminati don't ever get their hands dirty but use front men or organisations to do their dirty work. This would be a prime example -- skeptics debunking alternative medicine. Not the dumbed-down crap that treats deficiency diseases with drugs and waits until diseases reach crisis stage before being able to offer a solution. Please describe what these "deficiency diseases" are, give some examples, and explain how the nutritional cures work. Don't forget to back your claims with science. One deficiency disease is underarm odour which is a deficiency of silica. That is a stupid statement. Only in the eyes of the stupid. Silica is sand. Sand doesn't smell. There is no need for silica in the human body. Please provide evidence if I am incorrect, including properly performed studies. Silica, silicon, silicon dioxide, siliclic acid - any of these ring a bell? Silica is also beneficial for bone growth and arterial health, amongst other things. Silica is harmful and can cause inflamation if inside the body. It is not absorbed by the body. Get a clue errol. Studies have shown that silica is a vital nutrient, go do some homework in pubmed or one of your research books. I did. It is a toxin. That's about it. How about silicon dioxide? Bottom line is that silicon is not a nutrient for humans. If I am incorrect, show me *good* evidence. Therefore underarm odour is indication of a health problem. Go walk into a middle school or a high school after gym. If what you say, the entire gym class would be about to die. Not about to die, but with a silica deficiency yes. There is no such thing as silica deficiency, unless you are a Intel-based computer. This is a trick question right? You are going to accuse me of using the word "silica" instead of "silicon dioxide" right? No, because silicon is not a human nutrient. Sorry, better people than you have tried it, and bob the moron too. Nice name calling. THat's your best (actually only) argument. Jef |
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On 9/28/10 7:51 PM, carole wrote:
wrote in message ... On 9/28/10 6:50 PM, carole wrote: "Bob wrote in message ... Really? The pharmaceutical industry does not determine which journal articles are published. Further, with the internet, they can't surpress anything. don't kid yourself, the mass media, the medical journals, and school textbooks are tightly controlled. The conspiracy theory rears its ugly head. Rather, modern medicine and science require that hypotheses and theories be supported with evidence. And for that very reason, they derail alternative therapies on cooked up reasons before they get the chance to do any studies. There's NCCAM - National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, part of the National Institutes of Medicine. Though they spent about $1 billion in research on conjecture-based medicine (alternative medicine), they have yet to find any evidence that any alternative medicine works better than placebo. The reason why research on alternative therapies are derailed is that there is no scientific reason to believe that they work and no evidence to support them. You know about the four humours? That is what today's allopathic medicine will look like in 100 years. There is a great book called, "Doctors" by Sherwin Nuland. He talks about the origins of the four humours. The four humours are a classic example of ignorance of how the body works. That you support this ancient and disproven idea says volumes about your inability to understand science and medicine. Go back and read for comprehension dr jeff. I have. I suggest you do the same. The conjecture of the humours (I say conjecture, because there is no evidence for them) is utter rubbish. It may have made sense based on what was known about the body in the 1500s, but based on what we know now, it is rubbish. Enough said. You're ideas are not worth my time. Jeff |
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"dr_jeff" wrote in message ... On 9/28/10 7:49 PM, carole wrote: wrote in message ... On 9/28/10 6:48 PM, carole wrote: wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 7:53 AM, carole wrote: wrote in message ... On 9/27/10 5:25 AM, carole wrote: If they do work, show us the science. The problem is dr no doc I have developed my thinking through alternative avenues and my own experience. No help whatsoever from your "scientific sources". You've got that right, although I wouldn't call what you do, "thinking." And you're right about not developing it through scientific sources. Instead, you developed it through unreliable, unproven sources. You draw your conclusion, I'll draw mine which is that medical science has been rigged to support pharmaceutical solutions firstly through massive donations to medical schools by the Rockefeller foundation, then through operations like AMA and other pharmaceutical backed organisations that like to destroy any opposition to their business with disease. And since when do you do any thinking ...unless you refer to your absorbing and regurgitating? Why do you think that some diseases are cured by nutrients (eg scurvy, beri beri) and some not? Could it be that all disease is deficiency disease, if not, why not? But you want me to change my whole orientation and begin to give you scientific evidence. Gee, you're posting to sci.med, short for science.medicine. That should give you a hint that using science is appropriate in the newsgroup. Well gee to you mate, you're posting to misc.health.alternative - so same back at ya. If scientific evidence worked for me I wouldn't have had to figure out all my health solutions out for myself. That's a stupid comment. You've no clue about science or medicine. Well derr, I do you know. What I know is that they ignore little complaints and call people hypocondriacs until something full blown and deadly turns up. then they use chemo, radiation and surgery to do further damage. I have spent years working this stuff out and have come to the conclusion that scientific medicine is geared to suit the pharmaceutical business with disease rather than cure anybody of anything. Yes, there are some good people working in the system is hopelessly broken and corrupt. You're wrong. There is no better way than science to understand how the body works or nature works. Rubbish. So what I have figured out so far is that the soil theory is more important than the germ theory, homeopathy, nutritional remedies and detoxing are good. Yeap, you just demonstrated you have no clue. Giving water (homeopathy) to cure a disease doesn't work. Nor do "soil theory," "nutritional remedies" or "detoxing" work. Homeopathy isn't water goon. You're clueless about alternative remedies - why do you post to this ng? They are good for the liars selling them. Your allopathic medicine is the crap. Nutritional remedies can cure disease from microbes, bacteria, fungi and parasites. No, it can't. Yes it can idiot. Scientific evidence is a skeptic tool, designed to screen out anything not approved by the pharmaceutical cartel. No, scientific evidence is a science designed to screen out things that don't work or are not true. Scientific medicine uses skeptics to do its dirty work. It removes any evidence that alternative works then gets the skeptics to debunk it. I have heard that the illuminati don't ever get their hands dirty but use front men or organisations to do their dirty work. This would be a prime example -- skeptics debunking alternative medicine. Not the dumbed-down crap that treats deficiency diseases with drugs and waits until diseases reach crisis stage before being able to offer a solution. Please describe what these "deficiency diseases" are, give some examples, and explain how the nutritional cures work. Don't forget to back your claims with science. One deficiency disease is underarm odour which is a deficiency of silica. That is a stupid statement. Only in the eyes of the stupid. Silica is sand. Sand doesn't smell. There is no need for silica in the human body. Please provide evidence if I am incorrect, including properly performed studies. Silica, silicon, silicon dioxide, siliclic acid - any of these ring a bell? Silica is also beneficial for bone growth and arterial health, amongst other things. Silica is harmful and can cause inflamation if inside the body. It is not absorbed by the body. Get a clue errol. Studies have shown that silica is a vital nutrient, go do some homework in pubmed or one of your research books. I did. It is a toxin. That's about it. How about silicon dioxide? Bottom line is that silicon is not a nutrient for humans. If I am incorrect, show me *good* evidence. WHO FOOD ADDITIVES SERIES NO. 5 http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecf...no/v05je04.htm The Importance of Silicon http://www.ultimatesg.com/22mayjarrowsilicon.html "Silicon is a trace mineral required for the formation of healthy connective tissue, bone, skin, hair and nails. Silicon is essential for collagen formation, healthy arteries and regulates calcium deposition in bones.* BioSil's active silicon is an essential partner of calcium for bones, glucosamine for joints Absorption is Key. Dietary sources of silicon such as those found in food, horsetail and colloidal gel (silica) products are very poorly absorbed because of their insoluble, polymerized forms. For absorption to occur, dietary silicon must be first converted to Orthosilicic Acid (monomeric silicic acid), the bioavailable form found in BioSilT. Why is BioSilT Different? BioSilT (Si[OH]4) is 20,000 times more soluble than silica(SiO2 - found in horsetail and colloidal gels) and 2.5 times more bioavailable than other forms of silicon! The superiority of silicon as concentrated, choline-stabilized orthosilicic acid from BioSilT has been proven in a peer reviewed scientific study comparing three different forms of silicon. The results of the comparative, cross-over, double-blind clinical trial demonstrated that the stabilized monomeric form of silicon (stabilized orthosilicic acid - as found in BioSilT) is far superior to colloidal silica and horsetail extract. In fact, of the three experimental groups, only BioSilT offered a bioavailable source of silicon; the other forms of silicon (horsetail and colloidal gel) were no better than placebo1. Scientific References 1. Arch Dermatol Res. 2005 Oct;297(4):147-53. Epub 2005 Oct 26. Effect of oral intake of choline-stabilized orthosilicic acid on skin, nails and hair in women with photodamaged skin. Barel A et al. 2. Calcif Tissue Int. 2006 Apr;78(4):227-32. Epub 2006 Apr 13. Partial prevention of long-term femoral bone loss in aged ovariectomized rats supplemented with choline-stabilized orthosilicic acid. Calomme M et al." * * * Therefore underarm odour is indication of a health problem. Go walk into a middle school or a high school after gym. If what you say, the entire gym class would be about to die. Not about to die, but with a silica deficiency yes. There is no such thing as silica deficiency, unless you are a Intel-based computer. This is a trick question right? You are going to accuse me of using the word "silica" instead of "silicon dioxide" right? No, because silicon is not a human nutrient. Just further evidence of your dumb-down "medical education" that emphasises pharmaceutical solutions over nutrition. Sorry, better people than you have tried it, and bob the moron too. Nice name calling. THat's your best (actually only) argument. I've learnt from the best, as well as bob, the blob. Jef -- carole www.conspiracee.com "Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt (1759-1806) |
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