Men who marry Single Mothers are Chumps !

"Deb" wrote in message
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"Zoey" wrote in message
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"Autobodygal" wrote in message
.com...
I think that a lot of people would agree with me when I say that you
are a
simple minded idiot! Single mothers are not losers. There are a lot of
different reasons why a woman may be a single mother. The losers are
the
men
that can not be man enough to support the children that they have
created.
Single mothers should be applauded.

I agree with you - I think whoever posted that is complete moron and
yes - the men are more often than not the pathetic losers who cause
mothers
to be single mothers.

And yet, the losers are still chosen over the nice guys, and hold onto
your hat,
it's women CHOOSING losers. Myself included.

At least, that's the situation for me. No one
understands what being a single mother is until they experienced it.
For
myself, I'm glad that I get to raise my son the way I want him to be
raised
because his father is an idiot who didn't want to take responsibility
and
could only be a bad influence on my son.

I hope you don't say this to your son or around him. Kids aren't stupid,
they
realize their half of each parent, when you badmouth his dad, your
badmouthing
him.

More important is to discuss how, though genetically half of each parent, a
person is NOT comprised of the behaviors of both parents. The behavior is by
choice, not genetic. Criticizing the behavior of the father (or the mother)
does NOT cast aspersions on the child.


--
"There are 10 kinds of people in the world:
those who understand binary numbers and those who don't."
-----------------------------
Byron "Barn" Canfield

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:22:17 GMT, "Byron Canfield"
wrote:

"Timothy" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:06:49 -0400, "Zoey" wrote:


"Sour Kraut" wrote in
message
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:46:12 -0400, "Zoey" wrote:


"Autobodygal" wrote in message
r.com...
I think that a lot of people would agree with me when I say that you
are a
simple minded idiot! Single mothers are not losers. There are a lot
of
different reasons why a woman may be a single mother. The losers are
the
men
that can not be man enough to support the children that they have
created.
Single mothers should be applauded.

I agree with you - I think whoever posted that is complete moron
and
yes - the men are more often than not the pathetic losers who cause
mothers
to be single mothers. At least, that's the situation for me. No one
understands what being a single mother is until they experienced it.
For
myself, I'm glad that I get to raise my son the way I want him to be
raised
because his father is an idiot who didn't want to take responsibility
and
could only be a bad influence on my son. But it still hurts me when I
see a
couple walking down the street with their kids. It's hard having
something
as wonderful as a kid and not being able to share it with someone.


Some times you people really amaze me. Always excuses always
justification, ya'd figure you'd get a clue eventually but I guess
that is physically impossible.

Oh well, **** off then. What a ****ing waste...

What "excuse" did you find in my post?

Oh, and if you don't want to read about single parents - why don't you do
the ****ing off then and not read threads from the alt.single-parents ng?

Don't even see it, incredible and I guess laughable.

**** it!!! and ****ing off right now.

Oh, your just so clever -- and I'll bet you think you invented the sock
puppet, too. You're just an anonymous coward.

Woohoo!!! The unbias middle ground comes to save the day. Offering
incite and common denominator. YOU FAIL IT!!!! Freak

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:18:57 -0400, "Zoey" wrote:


"howldog" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:46:12 -0400, "Zoey" wrote:


"Autobodygal" wrote in message
r.com...
I think that a lot of people would agree with me when I say that you
are a
simple minded idiot! Single mothers are not losers. There are a lot of
different reasons why a woman may be a single mother. The losers are
the
men
that can not be man enough to support the children that they have
created.
Single mothers should be applauded.

I agree with you - I think whoever posted that is complete moron and
yes - the men are more often than not the pathetic losers who cause
mothers
to be single mothers.


nice sexist self-excusal. do another.


At least, that's the situation for me.


that didnt take long.



No one
understands what being a single mother is until they experienced it.


probly right about that. In my own case, my ex-wife and i pretty much
just werent happy with each other; i told her i'd stick around for the
kid but she didnt want that, so she took the kid, and the courts
wouldnt let me stop her. That doesnt make me a pathetic loser, and i
knwo several guys who suffered the same situation as me, and i wouldnt
label them losers either.

Read carefully before going on the defensive. I'm sorry your ex wife
took your kids from you but I didn't say that ALL men are pathetic losers
who cause mothers to be single, I said "for the most part".



AGAIN, thats sexist as hell, and just as bad. "For the most part men
are pathetic losers". Gee. thats a lot more comforting. LOL

**** you.



I'm also aware
that there are single fathers out there who are doing the same job as single
mothers and should be commended just as well. I'll also say this - courts
more often than not side with the mother on custody issues and this is not
always right either.

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:22:18 GMT, "Byron Canfield"
wrote:

"howldog" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:46:12 -0400, "Zoey" wrote:


"Autobodygal" wrote in message
r.com...
I think that a lot of people would agree with me when I say that you
are a
simple minded idiot! Single mothers are not losers. There are a lot of
different reasons why a woman may be a single mother. The losers are
the
men
that can not be man enough to support the children that they have
created.
Single mothers should be applauded.

I agree with you - I think whoever posted that is complete moron and
yes - the men are more often than not the pathetic losers who cause
mothers
to be single mothers.


nice sexist self-excusal. do another.


At least, that's the situation for me.


that didnt take long.



No one
understands what being a single mother is until they experienced it.


probly right about that. In my own case, my ex-wife and i pretty much
just werent happy with each other; i told her i'd stick around for the
kid but she didnt want that, so she took the kid, and the courts
wouldnt let me stop her. That doesnt make me a pathetic loser, and i
knwo several guys who suffered the same situation as me, and i wouldnt
label them losers either.

Your anecdotal situation (ONE situation) does not, however, render all
single mothers as losers.



I did not say they were. I would never say such a thing. People are
individuals and should be judged as such.

"rpm" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:06:49 -0400, "Zoey" wrote:


"Sour Kraut" wrote in
message
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:46:12 -0400, "Zoey" wrote:


"Autobodygal" wrote in message
r.com...
I think that a lot of people would agree with me when I say that you
are a
simple minded idiot! Single mothers are not losers. There are a lot
of
different reasons why a woman may be a single mother. The losers are
the
men
that can not be man enough to support the children that they have
created.
Single mothers should be applauded.

I agree with you - I think whoever posted that is complete moron
and
yes - the men are more often than not the pathetic losers who cause
mothers
to be single mothers. At least, that's the situation for me. No one
understands what being a single mother is until they experienced it.
For
myself, I'm glad that I get to raise my son the way I want him to be
raised
because his father is an idiot who didn't want to take responsibility
and
could only be a bad influence on my son. But it still hurts me when I
see a
couple walking down the street with their kids. It's hard having
something
as wonderful as a kid and not being able to share it with someone.


Some times you people really amaze me. Always excuses always
justification, ya'd figure you'd get a clue eventually but I guess
that is physically impossible.

Oh well, **** off then. What a ****ing waste...

What "excuse" did you find in my post?

Oh, and if you don't want to read about single parents - why don't you do
the ****ing off then and not read threads from the alt.single-parents ng?

Who said he's readinf it from alt.single-parents? It's posted to
alt.support.childfree,soc.men,misc.kids,alt.suppor t.single-parents.
This is a perfectly valid discussison for soc.men.

I'm pretty sure he knows he's crossposting. He should take
alt.support.single-parents out.

"Timothy" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:06:49 -0400, "Zoey" wrote:


"Sour Kraut" wrote in
message
.. .
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:46:12 -0400, "Zoey" wrote:


"Autobodygal" wrote in message
r.com...
I think that a lot of people would agree with me when I say that you
are a
simple minded idiot! Single mothers are not losers. There are a lot
of
different reasons why a woman may be a single mother. The losers are
the
men
that can not be man enough to support the children that they have
created.
Single mothers should be applauded.

I agree with you - I think whoever posted that is complete moron
and
yes - the men are more often than not the pathetic losers who cause
mothers
to be single mothers. At least, that's the situation for me. No one
understands what being a single mother is until they experienced it.
For
myself, I'm glad that I get to raise my son the way I want him to be
raised
because his father is an idiot who didn't want to take responsibility
and
could only be a bad influence on my son. But it still hurts me when I
see a
couple walking down the street with their kids. It's hard having
something
as wonderful as a kid and not being able to share it with someone.


Some times you people really amaze me. Always excuses always
justification, ya'd figure you'd get a clue eventually but I guess
that is physically impossible.

Oh well, **** off then. What a ****ing waste...

What "excuse" did you find in my post?

Oh, and if you don't want to read about single parents - why don't you do
the ****ing off then and not read threads from the alt.single-parents ng?

Don't even see it, incredible and I guess laughable.

**** it!!! and ****ing off right now.

You'll be missed.

"Betsy" wrote in message
...

I never bad mouth my son's father in front of him or around him.
That's
one of the reasons I was looking for a newsgroup with people who may be
able
to relate to what I'm going through. When my son brings up his father
or
says he wants to see his father I tell him that Daddy is very busy
working
now. What else am I suppose to say? I tell him is father loves him but
can't spend time with him right now. Sooner or later though my son will
figure out the truth about his father. I just hope he doesn't resent me
for
lying to him now. In the meantime I tell my son how precious and
beatiful
he is and how so many people love him.

So you are saying, you make no effort whatsoever to allow your child to
see
his father? You have made no attempt to contact your child's father for
visitation? I know I had issues with my son's father, and he made
attempts
to NOT see his child for periods of time, but when he called, my son went
with his dad. When my son wanted to talk to Daddy, I called him up. When
my ex-husband decided to terminate his parental rights, because of other
legal issues, I was as honest as I could be to my son. He was six years
old
at the time. I do not believe that lying to your child is appropriate. I
don't mean telling him the cold hard truth, but something he can
understand.
I told my son, "Daddy has some problems right now, and decided that he
couldn't visit with you for awhile." He accepted that. The fact remains,
my son got the truth without being told, "Daddy doesn't want you anymore,"
or "You weren't important enough in Daddy's life," or whatever perceptions
I
had at the time. This wasn't and isn't about ME it's about my child.
Please bear that in mind; it's better to work toward the best interest of
your child than your own personal angry agenda.

Betsy

I've never told my son's father that he can't see my son. He simply
stated, about three months ago, that he wants nothing to do with his son.
This is not the first time he's done this. Whenever he's angry at me he
takes off and doesn't want contact with me or my son at all. This time he
was angry because he was suppose to drop off my son after a visitation and
he was hours late and I got upset and told him that he should at least call
if he's going to be that late. Last time it was because he was driving
around with our son without using the baby seat and I told him that wasn't
safe. He doesn't return my phone calls so I can't call him. My son is only
2 years old and he won't understand if I tell him Daddy has problems right
now. He understands that his father goes to work everyday so I tell him
that his father is working. I really don't know what else I can tell him.

I'm not sure how I'm suppose to make an effort for my son's father to
see him. If he doesn't want to see our son, there's nothing I can do about.
I'm also not sure how healthy it is for my son to have a father around for a
couple of weeks and then have no father for months. I feel as though I'm
held hostage and that unless I bend to every whim of his, he will take off
and our son because he is mad at me. I put up with a lot from that guy
because I was afraid to tell him anything that might make him mad for the
sake of our son but I don't think being a carpet for this guy is helping
anyone, including my son.

"howldog" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:18:57 -0400, "Zoey" wrote:


"howldog" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:46:12 -0400, "Zoey" wrote:


"Autobodygal" wrote in message
r.com...
I think that a lot of people would agree with me when I say that you
are a
simple minded idiot! Single mothers are not losers. There are a lot
of
different reasons why a woman may be a single mother. The losers are
the
men
that can not be man enough to support the children that they have
created.
Single mothers should be applauded.

I agree with you - I think whoever posted that is complete moron
and
yes - the men are more often than not the pathetic losers who cause
mothers
to be single mothers.


nice sexist self-excusal. do another.


At least, that's the situation for me.


that didnt take long.



No one
understands what being a single mother is until they experienced it.


probly right about that. In my own case, my ex-wife and i pretty much
just werent happy with each other; i told her i'd stick around for the
kid but she didnt want that, so she took the kid, and the courts
wouldnt let me stop her. That doesnt make me a pathetic loser, and i
knwo several guys who suffered the same situation as me, and i wouldnt
label them losers either.

Read carefully before going on the defensive. I'm sorry your ex wife
took your kids from you but I didn't say that ALL men are pathetic losers
who cause mothers to be single, I said "for the most part".



AGAIN, thats sexist as hell, and just as bad. "For the most part men
are pathetic losers". Gee. thats a lot more comforting. LOL

**** you.

I stand corrected - I actually that "more often than not men are the
pathetic losers who cause women to be single mothers. That's not sexist.

I also like the way you ignored my last paragraph where I talked about
single fathers. See the below paragraph.

I'm also aware
that there are single fathers out there who are doing the same job as
single
mothers and should be commended just as well. I'll also say this -
courts
more often than not side with the mother on custody issues and this is
not
always right either.

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:42:51 -0400, "Zoe"
scribbled:

I stand corrected - I actually that "more often than not men are the
pathetic losers who cause women to be single mothers. That's not sexist.

Uhm, yes, it's very sexist. On what do you base this claim?

I also like the way you ignored my last paragraph where I talked about
single fathers. See the below paragraph.

It's usenet. There is no requirement to respond to every part of a
post. Most often, someone who's in agreement with you will not
necessarily respond to that statement.

Nan

In article ,
says...
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:42:51 -0400, "Zoe"
scribbled:

I stand corrected - I actually that "more often than not men are the
pathetic losers who cause women to be single mothers. That's not sexist.


LOL...its within the women's power to NOT get pregnant...they have
better birth control choices then do men and they have more pre-birth
and post-birth choices. Give men just the same post-birth choices
unless you are a sexist and you think women deserve special treatment
and laws just for them.

Uhm, yes, it's very sexist. On what do you base this claim?

I also like the way you ignored my last paragraph where I talked about
single fathers. See the below paragraph.

It's usenet. There is no requirement to respond to every part of a
post. Most often, someone who's in agreement with you will not
necessarily respond to that statement.

Nan