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Bill Cosby - NAACP leaders stunned by remarks of prominent comedian



 
 
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Old May 21st 04, 12:40 PM
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jimmineecricket wrote:

"Ladies and gentlemen,
the lower economic people are not
holding up their end in this deal.

THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT PARENTING.

They are buying things for kids -
$500 sneakers for what?

And won't spend $200 for
'Hooked on Phonics.'

He added:

"They're standing on the corner
and they CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH.

I can't even talk the way these people talk:

'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ...
And I blamed the kid until
I HEARD THE MOTHER TALK.

And then I HEARD THE FATHER TALK ...

Everybody knows it's important to
speak English except these knuckleheads. ...

You can't be a doctor with that
kind of crap coming out of your
mouth!"

The Post said Cosby also targeted imprisoned blacks.
"These are not political criminals," he said.
"These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola.

People getting shot in the back of the head
over a piece of pound cake and then we run
out and we are outraged, [saying]

'The cops shouldn't have shot him.'

What the hell was he doing with
the pound cake in his hand?"


He wont get any arguement here. He told it like it is and the NAACP just doesnt
want to hear the truth. Most blacks dont want to hear the truth. They are their
own worst enemy.


Bob and Byron don't want to hear the *truth* either. Do you
suppose they think Cosby is just an *Idiot_Scum_Racist* who
is "not worth arguing with" and should be *PLONKED* ??

And while Cosby was at it, he should have condemned OOW_Breeding
as well, just to cover all the IQ-75_Bases...
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Old May 22nd 04, 12:08 AM
Bob LeChevalier
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wrote:
jimmineecricket wrote:

"Ladies and gentlemen,
the lower economic people are not
holding up their end in this deal.


And you know this how?

THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT PARENTING.


And you know this how?

They are buying things for kids -
$500 sneakers for what?


Cite please, as to the number/percentage of lower socioeconomic
parents that buy $500 sneakers.

And won't spend $200 for 'Hooked on Phonics.'


Now THAT is a waste of money!

He added:

"They're standing on the corner and they CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH.


Cite, please

I can't even talk the way these people talk:

'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ...
And I blamed the kid until I HEARD THE MOTHER TALK.

And then I HEARD THE FATHER TALK ...


They speak a different dialect. This has always been a country of
multiple dialects, and the dialectal variation was never nearly as
extreme as it is in much smaller England. You can't talk the way
"these people talk" (not that it had anything to do with "lower
economics", which the poster is clearly using as a euphemism for
race), but I'll bet you can't talk Cockney or Yorkshire either, and
you probably can't understand them half as well as you could
understand these folk.

Everybody knows it's important to
speak English except these knuckleheads. ...


On street corners? Why?

You can't be a doctor with that
kind of crap coming out of your mouth!"


A doctor on a street corner is perfectly free to talk any way he
likes.

He wont get any arguement here. He told it like it is and the NAACP just doesnt
want to hear the truth. Most blacks dont want to hear the truth. They are their
own worst enemy.


Bob and Byron don't want to hear the *truth* either. Do you
suppose they think Cosby is just an *Idiot_Scum_Racist* who
is "not worth arguing with" and should be *PLONKED* ??


When Cosby posts to the newsgroup, I'll discuss it with him, and then
decide whether he should be *PLONKED*. I daresay his remarks would be
far more intelligent than yours.

lojbab
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(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
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Old May 22nd 04, 03:51 PM
Bob LeChevalier
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"Fletch F. Fletch" wrote:
Bob LeChevalier wrote:
wrote:
Those comments you question at the beginning of the post, are
*Cosby's* not mine. He has donated millions to support DAFNz in
college. He has a much better grasp of DAFNhood than you do, Bob.


Cosby is a comedian. Unless I had the full text of his comments with
all the context, and indeed preferably a video, since delivery is part
of his humor, I would not interpret his comments any differently than
I did. As posted, they were baloney, and because you posted them
(regardless of who said them originally), they were racist baloney.

Everything you say is racist baloney (even if you were to agree with
me this would be the case), because you are a subhuman racist.


With all due respect, Cosby has a PhD in education. And if you have ever
listened to him talk, you would know that he is a very smart, thoughtful
person. You do a disservice to him by dismissing him as a comedian.


I'm sure he is very smart, and can make intelligent comments about
education. But the reporting of the gala seems to make it clear that
while his comments had bite, the entertainers who were present were
performing their trade, and one cannot judge a comment without context
as well as sound and video information that would convey whether his
remark was serious, or comedically timed. In particular, the snippets
that were quoted sound like the sort of thing that he says in his
comedy routines, taking real life situations and phrasing them in
exaggerated but not wholly inaccurate manner. He had a routine about
special education on one of his earliest albums in the 60s which was
just that sort of thing that would sound politically incorrect and
offensive if spoken at an education conference, but was quite funny on
a comedy album. This gala was somewhere in between, probably with
elements of both.

lojbab
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(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
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Old May 22nd 04, 01:53 AM
Holger Dansk
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On Fri, 21 May 2004 19:08:17 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
wrote:

wrote:
jimmineecricket wrote:

"Ladies and gentlemen,
the lower economic people are not
holding up their end in this deal.


And you know this how?

THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT PARENTING.


And you know this how?

They are buying things for kids -
$500 sneakers for what?


Cite please, as to the number/percentage of lower socioeconomic
parents that buy $500 sneakers.

And won't spend $200 for 'Hooked on Phonics.'


Now THAT is a waste of money!

He added:

"They're standing on the corner and they CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH.


Cite, please

I can't even talk the way these people talk:

'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ...
And I blamed the kid until I HEARD THE MOTHER TALK.

And then I HEARD THE FATHER TALK ...


They speak a different dialect. This has always been a country of
multiple dialects, and the dialectal variation was never nearly as
extreme as it is in much smaller England. You can't talk the way
"these people talk" (not that it had anything to do with "lower
economics", which the poster is clearly using as a euphemism for
race), but I'll bet you can't talk Cockney or Yorkshire either, and
you probably can't understand them half as well as you could
understand these folk.


No, it is not a dialect. It is a very poor and wrong value system that
many black people have. They do not value education and the good things
in life. Without a sense of values a person is lost with nothing to
build character and his/her life on. They don't know how to act or
behave. It's very important that they get this corrected immediately if
they ever want to amount to anything.

Black people have been in this country for hundreds of years and many do
not and/or can not speak English. Hispanics and Asians can speak
English pronouncing words like police, President, incident correctly
after just a few days.

Blacks don't give a damn. They don't understand that they should value
education and speaking, walking, sitting, etc., correctly.

If they don't value these things, they are doomed.

Holger

Everybody knows it's important to
speak English except these knuckleheads. ...


On street corners? Why?

You can't be a doctor with that
kind of crap coming out of your mouth!"


A doctor on a street corner is perfectly free to talk any way he
likes.

He wont get any arguement here. He told it like it is and the NAACP just doesnt
want to hear the truth. Most blacks dont want to hear the truth. They are their
own worst enemy.


Bob and Byron don't want to hear the *truth* either. Do you
suppose they think Cosby is just an *Idiot_Scum_Racist* who
is "not worth arguing with" and should be *PLONKED* ??


When Cosby posts to the newsgroup, I'll discuss it with him, and then
decide whether he should be *PLONKED*. I daresay his remarks would be
far more intelligent than yours.

lojbab



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