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Was the bio dad working and supporting you and your child when you were
together? Or has he always had someone who was willing to support him? "Very Determined!" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 18, 3:37 pm, "DB" wrote: "Very Determined!" wrote in working...like I told him before McDonald's is always hiring...his child still has to eat and live whether he has a job or not! My father raised 3 kids on one blue collar salary with no handout from anyone, so what's your problem? Your dad should be commended! But my circumstances are not yours or your dads.FYI, I am not looking for a handout, for ten years I left him alone, figured he would do the right thing. When he could, (which he can), I figured he would help support his child, we created together. "His child,we created together" key phrase! He never did, and willfully unemployed himself as well as fled from state to state to avoid his obligations and responsibilities to his child. My current husband worked two jobs, killing himself, and I worked full time too so that we could eat, live, and my child could be well educated today, not ten, fifteen, twenty years ago (the cost of living is much different now). And we did what we had to do, because life wasn't fair my child should not have to suffer, and we did whatever we had to do to make sure he has what TWO parents should give him. I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer, so with that I had to undergo a radical thyroidectomy, and radiation. Let me know when your are ready for the violin...with removal of my thyroid other glands failed to their job, and so on...so I am on meds the rest of my life, and hope to find out if I am cancer free soon. With my health issues my husband had to leave his second job, to help run the household and take care of me, therefore financially we hurt because HE takes care of all his children including two others from a previous marriage. So legally my husband is obligated to care for them first before we even eat! Health wise I shouldn't be working the hours I do, but I know my obligations and responsibilities, and even continue my education where I graduate in May with my bachelors in Criminal Justice,YEAH!!! and if my health allows hopefully to law school in September of 08. Anyway, #1. My husband is not my son's father and he is not legally obligated to care for him. #2. Why is the bilogical father any less responsible than I am? #3. Why am I looking for a handout when everyone is doing their job, but the absent bilogical father? #4. How is my son going to feel when I tell him, I knew where your father was I just didn't care enough to fight for you, because I don't want to bother with it? Because we dont' need? We might not need it today...but my child might, when he needs a new pair of size 15 shoes, and I cannot buy them because I have to buy my medicine or pay for my doctor's visit. My child might need the money when he needs new school supplies and I have to be in the hospital. My child might need it when he is hungry at school and I need gas in my car. I am sorry your dad had to do it by himself, or chose to, but why do I have a problem if I am willing to get up and fight for what is legally obligated to my son?!? He deserves that, at the very least...We all have choices about our lives, I choose to not be a martyr and make sure the biological father is held responsible for his actions or inactions. |
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"Very Determined!" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 18, 3:37 pm, "DB" wrote: "Very Determined!" wrote in working...like I told him before McDonald's is always hiring...his child still has to eat and live whether he has a job or not! My father raised 3 kids on one blue collar salary with no handout from anyone, so what's your problem? Your dad should be commended! But my circumstances are not yours or your dads.FYI, I am not looking for a handout, for ten years I left him alone, figured he would do the right thing. When he could, (which he can), I figured he would help support his child, we created together. "His child,we created together" key phrase! Key phrase, but FALSE phrase. It was YOU, and you ALONE (by your SOLE choice) who created your child. Your phrase is like saying because I handed you a packet of yeast, "we" created a loaf of bread.......... He never did, and willfully unemployed himself as well as fled from state to state to avoid his obligations and responsibilities to his child. My current husband worked two jobs, killing himself, and I are ready for the violin...with removal of my thyroid other glands failed to their joworked full time too so that we could eat, live, and my child could be well educated today, not ten, fifteen, twenty years ago (the cost of living is much different now). And we did what we had to do, because life wasn't fair my child should not have to suffer, and we did whatever we had to do to make sure he has what TWO parents should give him. I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer, so with that I had to undergo a radical thyroidectomy, and radiation. Let me know when your b, and so on...so I am on meds the rest of my life, and hope to find out if I am cancer free soon. With my health issues my husband had to leave his second job, to help run the household and take care of me, therefore financially we hurt because HE takes care of all his children including two others from a previous marriage. So legally my husband is obligated to care for them first before we even eat! Health wise I shouldn't be working the hours I do, but I know my obligations and responsibilities, and even continue my education where I graduate in May with my bachelors in Criminal Justice,YEAH!!! and if my health allows hopefully to law school in September of 08. Anyway, #1. My husband is not my son's father and he is not legally obligated to care for him. #2. Why is the bilogical father any less responsible than I am? Because it was YOU, not him who made the sole choice to bear your child. It is ILLEGAL for him to make such choice. (see above) #3. Why am I looking for a handout when everyone is doing their job, but the absent bilogical father? #4. How is my son going to feel when I tell him, I knew where your father was I just didn't care enough to fight for you, because I don't want to bother with it? Because we dont' need? We might not need it today...but my child might, when he needs a new pair of size 15 shoes, and I cannot buy them because I have to buy my medicine or pay for my doctor's visit. My child might need the money when he needs new school supplies and I have to be in the hospital. My child might need it when he is hungry at school and I need gas in my car. I am sorry your dad had to do it by himself, or chose to, but why do I have a problem if I am willing to get up and fight for what is legally obligated to my son?!? He deserves that, at the very least...We all have choices about our lives, I choose to not be a martyr and make sure the biological father is held responsible for his actions or inactions. Responsible for "inactions". Don't you just LOVE it! What the heck is THAT supposed to mean? |
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"Very Determined!" wrote in My father raised 3 kids on one blue collar salary with no handout from anyone, so what's your problem? Your dad should be commended! But my circumstances are not yours or your dads. My Dad worked to feed us kids, why can't you do the same? My current husband worked two jobs, killing himself, and I worked full time too so that we could eat, live, and my child could be well educated today, not ten, fifteen, twenty years ago (the cost of living is much different now). And we did what we had to do, because life wasn't fair my child should not have to suffer, and we did whatever we had to do to make sure he has what TWO parents should give him. It has never been two parents giving to one child, get real! I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer, so with that I had to undergo a radical thyroidectomy, and radiation. Let me know when your are ready for the violin...with removal of my thyroid other glands failed to their job, and so on...so I am on meds the rest of my life, and hope to find out if I am cancer free soon. Big deal, so you take suppliments, millions have this same disorder and live normal lives, it's not crippling! With my health issues my husband had to leave his second job, to help run the household and take care of me, therefore financially we hurt because HE takes care of all his children including two others from a previous marriage. So legally my husband is obligated to care for them first before we even eat! Give us a break, you have to buy food with a littel extra for the kids! Why is the bilogical father any less responsible than I am? #3. Why am I looking for a handout when everyone is doing their job, but the absent bilogical father? CLue, you remarried and started a new life, Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!1 might, when he needs a new pair of size 15 shoes, and I cannot buy them because I have to buy my medicine or pay for my doctor's visit. My child might need the money when he needs new school supplies and I have to be in the hospital. My child might need it when he is hungry at school and I need gas in my car. Are your finances so low that $100 is going to break you? I am sorry your dad had to do it by himself, or chose to, but why do I have a problem if I am willing to get up and fight for what is legally obligated to my son?!? Who legally obligated anything to "your" son, only you are responsible for "your"son. You want to talk about legal responsibility to your son, lets talk about what the Government is legally doing to your son and the future generations. As we Speak, this government's debt has increased to 47 Trillion dollars, that works out to $161,000 for each man woman and child to pay. All the seniors voted and enjoy the richest pensions known to the civilized world. What kind of legacy has your government created for the kids of tomorrow? I think in the best interest of the children, all pensions should be cut and a mandatory 30% Garnishment should be placed on all working adults to help pay down this debt. We'll call the program, Pay the kids! |
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On Sep 21, 11:02 am, "Chris" wrote:
"Very Determined!" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 18, 3:37 pm, "DB" wrote: "Very Determined!" wrote in working...like I told him before McDonald's is always hiring...his child still has to eat and live whether he has a job or not! My father raised 3 kids on one blue collar salary with no handout from anyone, so what's your problem? Your dad should be commended! But my circumstances are not yours or your dads.FYI, I am not looking for a handout, for ten years I left him alone, figured he would do the right thing. When he could, (which he can), I figured he would help support his child, we created together. "His child,we created together" key phrase! Key phrase, but FALSE phrase. It was YOU, and you ALONE (by your SOLE choice) who created your child. Your phrase is like saying because I handed you a packet of yeast, "we" created a loaf of bread.......... He never did, and willfully unemployed himself as well as fled from state to state to avoid his obligations and responsibilities to his child. My current husband worked two jobs, killing himself, and I are ready for the violin...with removal of my thyroid other glands failed to their joworked full time too so that we could eat, live, and my child could be well educated today, not ten, fifteen, twenty years ago (the cost of living is much different now). And we did what we had to do, because life wasn't fair my child should not have to suffer, and we did whatever we had to do to make sure he has what TWO parents should give him. I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer, so with that I had to undergo a radical thyroidectomy, and radiation. Let me know when your b, and so on...so I am on meds the rest of my life, and hope to find out if I am cancer free soon. With my health issues my husband had to leave his second job, to help run the household and take care of me, therefore financially we hurt because HE takes care of all his children including two others from a previous marriage. So legally my husband is obligated to care for them first before we even eat! Health wise I shouldn't be working the hours I do, but I know my obligations and responsibilities, and even continue my education where I graduate in May with my bachelors in Criminal Justice,YEAH!!! and if my health allows hopefully to law school in September of 08. Anyway, #1. My husband is not my son's father and he is not legally obligated to care for him. #2. Why is the bilogical father any less responsible than I am? Because it was YOU, not him who made the sole choice to bear your child. It is ILLEGAL for him to make such choice. (see above) #3. Why am I looking for a handout when everyone is doing their job, but the absent bilogical father? #4. How is my son going to feel when I tell him, I knew where your father was I just didn't care enough to fight for you, because I don't want to bother with it? Because we dont' need? We might not need it today...but my child might, when he needs a new pair of size 15 shoes, and I cannot buy them because I have to buy my medicine or pay for my doctor's visit. My child might need the money when he needs new school supplies and I have to be in the hospital. My child might need it when he is hungry at school and I need gas in my car. I am sorry your dad had to do it by himself, or chose to, but why do I have a problem if I am willing to get up and fight for what is legally obligated to my son?!? He deserves that, at the very least...We all have choices about our lives, I choose to not be a martyr and make sure the biological father is held responsible for his actions or inactions. Responsible for "inactions". Don't you just LOVE it! What the heck is THAT supposed to mean? - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Key phrase, but FALSE phrase. It was YOU, and you ALONE (by your SOLE choice) who created your child. Your phrase is like saying because I handed you a packet of yeast, "we" created a loaf of bread.......... Sorry to disappoint you on this one...I did not supply the sperm, and inject it. So "we created this child." He and I chose to create this child, and I chose to nurture and bear him. Ok, and why does any of that matter now..the child is here,living and breathing? Responsible for "inactions". Don't you just LOVE it! What the heck is THAT supposed to mean? It means that after searching high and low for the NCP for 10 years, and finding him in prison for domestic violence, ("my duty as the CP," right?) that he was told once again where his child lives,( in the same place for 14 years) and his child's phone number (the same for 14 years) that he needed to be a part of his child's life...because the child at least deserved that. He decided to do nothing, not call him, write him, wish him happy birthday...nothing! So inaction means absence of action, and that is how I have applied it here. I think you are much more angry than I am. I don't understand your defense of this scumbag except that I have what I have needed to do, and will keep doing it. He needs to let his step-father adopt him and let him have the real father he deserves. |
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On Sep 21, 5:42 pm, "DB" wrote:
"Very Determined!" wrote in My father raised 3 kids on one blue collar salary with no handout from anyone, so what's your problem? Your dad should be commended! But my circumstances are not yours or your dads. My Dad worked to feed us kids, why can't you do the same? Read the quote below...I work full time!!!Always have, always will. My current husband worked two jobs, killing himself, and I worked full time too so that we could eat, live, and my child could be well educated today, not ten, fifteen, twenty years ago (the cost of living is much different now). And we did what we had to do, because life wasn't fair my child should not have to suffer, and we did whatever we had to do to make sure he has what TWO parents should give him. It has never been two parents giving to one child, get real! Than how many has it been?? I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer, so with that I had to undergo a radical thyroidectomy, and radiation. Let me know when your are ready for the violin...with removal of my thyroid other glands failed to their job, and so on...so I am on meds the rest of my life, and hope to find out if I am cancer free soon. Big deal, so you take suppliments, millions have this same disorder and live normal lives, it's not crippling! Yes I take supplements, that cost money, Yes I know millions have the same diorder, what does that have to do with anything??? With my health issues my husband had to leave his second job, to help run the household and take care of me, therefore financially we hurt because HE takes care of all his children including two others from a previous marriage. So legally my husband is obligated to care for them first before we even eat! Give us a break, you have to buy food with a littel extra for the kids! Give who a break???By law child support has to paid before income taxes are even taken out, so with that his child support gets paid before we even eat, no matter how much in your mind you think there is any left over for us. Why is the bilogical father any less responsible than I am? #3. Why am I looking for a handout when everyone is doing their job, but the absent bilogical father? CLue, you remarried and started a new life, Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Because I remarried has nothing to do with the bioligical fathers responsibility to his child..the law does not see that my husband has any legal obligation to my child... might, when he needs a new pair of size 15 shoes, and I cannot buy them because I have to buy my medicine or pay for my doctor's visit. My child might need the money when he needs new school supplies and I have to be in the hospital. My child might need it when he is hungry at school and I need gas in my car. Are your finances so low that $100 is going to break you? What planet are you from? Yes, why do I bother with this? $100.00 to you might be nothing but to us it is determining whether we will eat, pay for my meds, or make the rent??? I am sorry your dad had to do it by himself, or chose to, but why do I have a problem if I am willing to get up and fight for what is legally obligated to my son?!? Who legally obligated anything to "your" son, only you are responsible for "your"son. You want to talk about legal responsibility to your son, lets talk about what the Government is legally doing to your son and the future generations. As we Speak, this government's debt has increased to 47 Trillion dollars, that works out to $161,000 for each man woman and child to pay. All the seniors voted and enjoy the richest pensions known to the civilized world. What kind of legacy has your government created for the kids of tomorrow? I think in the best interest of the children, all pensions should be cut and a mandatory 30% Garnishment should be placed on all working adults to help pay down this debt. We'll call the program, Pay the kids! If you are so worry about what the government is doing to my son, maybe you should be responding to a different blog |
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On Sep 24, 11:29?am, Very Determined! wrote:
On Sep 21, 11:02 am, "Chris" wrote: Sorry to disappoint you on this one...I did not supply the sperm, and inject it. So "we created this child." He and I chose to create this child, and I chose to nurture and bear him. Ok, and why does any of that matter now..the child is here,living and breathing? There are some men on this forum that advocate men getting out of CS because they dont have a say in the child even being born, which is a totally asinine arguement. Anyway, the father owes you..yes..you can hunt him down..yes.but putting a lean on his house and threatening to take that away was just as asinine. He's a deadbeat, granted, but doing what you didnt will just encourage him to further hide assets. And telling him to work McDonalds isnt all that smart either. It's pretty much a lost cause here. You will never see a dime from the idiot. Move on. The $100 a month is not worth the aggravation. |
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"Very Determined!" wrote On Sep 21, 5:42 pm, "DB" wrote: .................................. Are your finances so low that $100 is going to break you? What planet are you from? Yes, why do I bother with this? $100.00 to you might be nothing but to us it is determining whether we will eat, pay for my meds, or make the rent??? == First: The CS is not for your meds, it's for the child's needs only. Second: You make a lousy choice in men to procreate with and now you want *my* tax dollars to fund your quest for that 100 bucks? |
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"Very Determined!" wrote in message ups.com... Give who a break???By law child support has to paid before income taxes are even taken out, so with that his child support gets paid before we even eat, no matter how much in your mind you think there is any left over for us. Do you have a cite for this statement. In my state CS is paid out of disposable income which is determined AFTER deducting amounts required by law and those deductions are not limited to taxes and social security. |
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On Sep 24, 11:29 am, "Gini" wrote:
"Very Determined!" wrote On Sep 21, 5:42 pm, "DB" wrote: ................................. Are your finances so low that $100 is going to break you? What planet are you from? Yes, why do I bother with this? $100.00 to you might be nothing but to us it is determining whether we will eat, pay for my meds, or make the rent??? == First: The CS is not for your meds, it's for the child's needs only. Second: You make a lousy choice in men to procreate with and now you want *my* tax dollars to fund your quest for that 100 bucks? Ok, and what planet are you from?? Child Support is for the well being of the child, as long as he has what he needs, food, shelter, education to the best that I can provide it...that child support is for whatever I deem necessary. So for example, if I go to the grocery store and spend $100.00 in groceries for him and I, $50.00 for me, $50.00 for the child, my part of the child's goceries is $25.00 and the NCP's part is $25.00...I spent my medicine money on those groceries, so look at it as reimbursement for my extra half. No one asks for an accounting of child support money, why do you? |
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On Sep 24, 11:29 am, "Gini" wrote:
"Very Determined!" wrote On Sep 21, 5:42 pm, "DB" wrote: ................................. Are your finances so low that $100 is going to break you? What planet are you from? Yes, why do I bother with this? $100.00 to you might be nothing but to us it is determining whether we will eat, pay for my meds, or make the rent??? == First: The CS is not for your meds, it's for the child's needs only. Second: You make a lousy choice in men to procreate with and now you want *my* tax dollars to fund your quest for that 100 bucks? Do not flatter yourself, I haven;'t spent your tax dollars to fund my quest...nothing I have done has taken from your wallet or your mouth. I have taken a small initative to educate myself, somewhat, and have done it "ALL" on my own and will continue to do so until he allows my husband to adopt or goes to jail. But evidently I have not educated myself as well as you to judge and inform on such matters.You are right,I did make a lousy choice in men, but that is past and the child is here living and breathing, and if I need to spend "your" tax dollars I can quit my job, collect welfare, disability, Social Security, food stamps, etc. and then really give others a reason to complain about why I am waisting their tax dollars...Thanks so much for all your support |
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