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"Paul (Grizzly) Fritz" wrote ...


Australia, from every report I have seen, is far more socialist than the
states, and if you are infering that providing greater amounts of social
services is less 'draconian' it is more socialist. Medical coverage for
all? how much more down the socialist path do you wnat to go?


Does it get in that Cabin at nights? ;-)

n

.... those pesky Guvmint Varmints wont get no taxes from me, No sirreeeee...

"Paul Fritz" wrote ...


Australia, from every report I have seen, is far more socialist than the
states, and if you are infering that providing greater amounts of social
services is less 'draconian' it is more socialist. Medical coverage for
all? how much more down the socialist path do you wnat to go?


Does it get cold in that Cabin at nights? ;-)

n

.... those pesky Guvmint Varmints wont get no taxes from me, No sirreeeee...

"quietguy" wrote in message
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Paul Fritz wrote:


Your 'ad hom' attack is duly noted as a lack of any real
rebuttal.........is that how you practiced your 'social work' as well


Gee Paul Fritz, you silly sausage (pun intended) you have me there mate,
though I would much rather argue with you in English - please translate
what
'ad hom' means so I can make some scathing reply

David - who is still wondering what a marOON is


Pssst it's from Bugs Bunny. And by looking at the ng this morning I'm
hearing good ol bugs in my head right at this moment with.... "This...
means... waaar", or perhaps good ol' Elmer Fudd with "A hunting we will
go...". lol

Christine

"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
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"lm" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 May 2004 23:28:41 -0400, "Paul Fritz"
wrote:


"lm" wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 07:57:20 +1000, quietguy
wrote:



Paul Fritz wrote:

....

Nothing like wearing your hypocrisy on your sleeve.....what
a
mar00n

Hi Paul

Actually it is still only autumn here so I have to carry my
hypocrisy
in my
shorts pocket these days - but please let me know what a mar00n
is
in
the US -
here in Oz it is a colour - sort of dark red, or a lolly, sort
of
like
a
Cherry Ripe.

Cheers and good wishes

Hi David. Butting in here just to say I'm glad to see you're from
Oz.
I'm no longer a single mum thanks to a compatriot of yours. He
made
the move over the great big pond to hang with us here in the U.S.

Oz is a lot more civilized to its single parents than the U.S.
is.

lm

Civilized????? the correct word would be socialist.

Australia is capitalist, but their social services are not yet so
draconian as ours. They're on their way though. They do have medical
coverage for all, but that's on its way out too. Hopefully it's on its
way in, here.

Australia, from every report I have seen, is far more socialist than the
states, and if you are infering that providing greater amounts of social
services is less 'draconian' it is more socialist. Medical coverage for
all? how much more down the socialist path do you wnat to go?

Besides the fact that fed guvmint has absolutely no constitutional
authority to provide health coverage (let alone the social security BS)
guvmint run health care would absolutely destroy the health care system in
this country. People are not static, they change when new rules/roadblocks
are put in place.......guvmint health care is just like raising the
minimum
wage or campaign finance reform, it looks great on paper, but the
unintended
and unforseen consequences are far worse.




Really Paul? Funny how so many Americans look at the Canadian health care
system and think that it's great. Socialism? I think not.

"Lisa" wrote in message
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"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
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"lm" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 May 2004 23:28:41 -0400, "Paul Fritz"
wrote:


"lm" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 04 May 2004 07:57:20 +1000, quietguy
wrote:



Paul Fritz wrote:

....

Nothing like wearing your hypocrisy on your
sleeve.....what
a
mar00n

Hi Paul

Actually it is still only autumn here so I have to carry my
hypocrisy
in my
shorts pocket these days - but please let me know what a
mar00n
is
in
the US -
here in Oz it is a colour - sort of dark red, or a lolly, sort
of
like
a
Cherry Ripe.

Cheers and good wishes

Hi David. Butting in here just to say I'm glad to see you're
from
Oz.
I'm no longer a single mum thanks to a compatriot of yours. He
made
the move over the great big pond to hang with us here in the
U.S.

Oz is a lot more civilized to its single parents than the U.S.
is.

lm

Civilized????? the correct word would be socialist.

Australia is capitalist, but their social services are not yet so
draconian as ours. They're on their way though. They do have medical
coverage for all, but that's on its way out too. Hopefully it's on
its
way in, here.

Australia, from every report I have seen, is far more socialist than
the
states, and if you are infering that providing greater amounts of social
services is less 'draconian' it is more socialist. Medical coverage for
all? how much more down the socialist path do you wnat to go?

Besides the fact that fed guvmint has absolutely no constitutional
authority to provide health coverage (let alone the social security BS)
guvmint run health care would absolutely destroy the health care system
in
this country. People are not static, they change when new
rules/roadblocks
are put in place.......guvmint health care is just like raising the
minimum
wage or campaign finance reform, it looks great on paper, but the
unintended
and unforseen consequences are far worse.




Really Paul? Funny how so many Americans look at the Canadian health care
system and think that it's great. Socialism? I think not.

The uniformed ones may. but the informed ones (typically those that don't
think guvmint is there to solve all their problems) think it is horrible.
It is socialism

socialism - "Any of various theories or systems of social organization in
which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or
by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy."

Canadian health care is a socialist system whether you like it or not


BTW, I have yet to meet a canadian doctor (and I have met plenty) that would
not love to practice in the U.S. and not be subject to the guvmint controls
they work under.

'Kate wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 15:52:28 +1000, quietguy

Ahh Kate - I was married at 21, three kids by the time I was 23, and I
just had
my 60th birthday. So your alarm is right on, I fudged a little there
as it has
been only 39 years - my apologies - I am much better at Social Work
than maths
:-)

David

PS I was a late starter and undertook my Social Work training from
1978-81

ROFL... ooookay. I was spot on at guesstimating your age.. not that it
matters. Actually, it does. Why *are* you hanging out in this group?
Slumming? Can't resist the plight of the single mom? Have one of us in
your own family? Come to see what it's all about? We have a wonderful
group of abnormally successful single parents here. Using them as the
mean for the single parent group would not give a true picture.

'Kate


If he is still 'parenting' as opposed to being a parent when the kids are
now middle aged adults, then he has done a **** poor job

'Kate wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 May 2004 00:51:10 -0400, "Paul Fritz"

snip

Definitely.............I wonder if his (very) lame smarmy snarky put
downs
worked in his 'social work' It obviously allowed him to feel superior
to
all those know nothings that couldn't compare to him......Bet he really
gets
his rocks off calling people 'silly sausages' He's played so many
'cards'
trying to cover his tracks........soooooooooooo transparent. LOL

I had a teacher last year who was brilliant. He continues his family
practice whilst teaching. I took him for abnormal psych. He showed
movies of therapy sessions with families. It never hit me until that
point that dysfunctional families are not all that different from
functional families. The only difference is in degree. Any family can
get "out of wack". There are reasons why teens choose to act out and
it's usually a call for help. It's not so hard to imagine that little
things become big things over time... and it can happen in any family.
It's not a matter of pounding one person in the family back in line..
that one person is poking up because the others are squeezing him/her.
It's not a shameful thing.. it's something that happens. Hmm... I've
picked up a habit of talking in metaphors.

And generalities, which in this case tend to be meaningless. :-)


'Kate

'Kate wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 May 2004 22:47:53 -0400, "Paul Fritz"


'Kate wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 4 May 2004 00:51:10 -0400, "Paul Fritz"

snip

Definitely.............I wonder if his (very) lame smarmy snarky
put
downs
worked in his 'social work' It obviously allowed him to feel
superior
to
all those know nothings that couldn't compare to him......Bet he
really
gets
his rocks off calling people 'silly sausages' He's played so many
'cards'
trying to cover his tracks........soooooooooooo transparent. LOL

I had a teacher last year who was brilliant. He continues his
family
practice whilst teaching. I took him for abnormal psych. He showed
movies of therapy sessions with families. It never hit me until
that
point that dysfunctional families are not all that different from
functional families. The only difference is in degree. Any family
can
get "out of wack". There are reasons why teens choose to act out
and
it's usually a call for help. It's not so hard to imagine that
little
things become big things over time... and it can happen in any
family.
It's not a matter of pounding one person in the family back in
line..
that one person is poking up because the others are squeezing
him/her.
It's not a shameful thing.. it's something that happens. Hmm...
I've
picked up a habit of talking in metaphors.

And generalities, which in this case tend to be meaningless. :-)

I was just rambling.

Nooooooooo :-)

Must have needed a good memory. I have the great
fortune to be taking a grad class from him this summer and I'm so
looking forward to it.

Summer school......now there were fond memories......NOT


'Kate

'Kate wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 May 2004 23:19:11 -0400, "Paul Fritz"


I was just rambling.

Nooooooooo :-)

LOL.

Must have needed a good memory. I have the great
fortune to be taking a grad class from him this summer and I'm so
looking forward to it.

Summer school......now there were fond memories......NOT

Well... hang tight 'cause my kids are volunteering for it.

I was talking college :-)

Mike has one
summer class (P.E.) so that he can be a senior next year and walk with
the class of '05. Lisa is entering HS and wants to take sports medicine
during the summer so that she can help wrap HS football player's ankles
in the fall. Yeah.. I see the motivation there. I have to cough up the
$240.

My little brother did that to (well he had to hanf around becaus eI was at
practice anyway.....almost got a college scholarship to do it at that level.



'Kate

On Tue, 4 May 2004 22:47:53 -0400, "Paul Fritz"
wrote:


'Kate wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 4 May 2004 00:51:10 -0400, "Paul Fritz"

snip

Definitely.............I wonder if his (very) lame smarmy snarky put
downs
worked in his 'social work' It obviously allowed him to feel superior
to
all those know nothings that couldn't compare to him......Bet he really
gets
his rocks off calling people 'silly sausages' He's played so many
'cards'
trying to cover his tracks........soooooooooooo transparent. LOL

I had a teacher last year who was brilliant. He continues his family
practice whilst teaching. I took him for abnormal psych. He showed
movies of therapy sessions with families. It never hit me until that
point that dysfunctional families are not all that different from
functional families. The only difference is in degree. Any family can
get "out of wack". There are reasons why teens choose to act out and
it's usually a call for help. It's not so hard to imagine that little
things become big things over time... and it can happen in any family.
It's not a matter of pounding one person in the family back in line..
that one person is poking up because the others are squeezing him/her.
It's not a shameful thing.. it's something that happens. Hmm... I've
picked up a habit of talking in metaphors.

And generalities, which in this case tend to be meaningless. :-)

All generalities are meaningless. :-)

lm