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UPDATE: playgroup fiasco
Stephanie wrote: Instead you label entitlemoo. Are you really so different? Do I *really* have to explain this again? They are not Entitlemoos because they disagree. They are Entitlemoos because they surround anyone wirth a dissenting voice, throw stones and all moo the same tune until the mooee goes running for the hills. It's a group function. They all follow the same Group Think and can't accept anyone different from themselves. It's an offensive moooovement on their part. Any time anyone disagrees, they all gather around and moo and moo and moo some more. They simply never stop mooing. Moooooooooooooo! Just go look at the heirarchy of the thread in Google. The same cows hump every one of my posts, no matter what thread, or which group (alt.moo or here). Hell, I half expect to see Nan, Banty or toto's name show up in rec.food.cooking or the cat groups, since I post there as well... -L. |
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Chookie ) writes:
I thought the correct term was "kibozing" for ngs and "ego-surfing" when applied to the web. In APA's it's an ego-scan or ego-boo (short for ego-boost), I think. |
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Catherine Woodgold wrote: If we're gonna vent, let me tell you (again?) about my experience on alt."support".depression. (quotations marks added for sarcasm.) I know that some groups have little tolerance for newbies, but I would have expected a support ng to be better at making allowances. It sounds like an unpleasant experience for you. Yes, it was. Once it started, I considered just forgetting about the whole thing, but thought that if I tried to post an apology or something I might end up getting over it faster. I got dug deeper and deeper in before finally getting some friendly and respectful replies that helped me. Apparently, the correct way to begin to post on a.s.d. is first to participate in some OFF-TOPIC threads, then to announce publicly that one is depressed, and finally very tactfully just maybe mention ways of dealing with depression. This was not stated in the FAQ. Possibly one of these days I'll get around to asking them to include that in the FAQ, as apparently the same thing happens to other people too from time to time!!! I am fascinated by newsgroup dynamics and observing how each group forms its own culture. My impression is that most people are unaware of the unspoken rules (which differ from group to group) yet nevertheless use various mechanisms to enforce them. To a certain extent, I would say that virtually every ng has "groupthink" so I see some validity to Lyn's comments. On the other hand, I wouldn't single out m.k as being an egregious case of it. Yes, it can be quite interesting. In spite of the fact that others from time to time post a similar type of first post, the regulars thought I ought to already know that wasn't the type of post that was wanted. They said I should have read the newsgroup for a while first, or read the FAQ, to find out that that wasn't the type of first post wanted. Yet, the FAQ doesn't say anything like that, and reading the newsgroup you see a bunch of depressed people who seem to want help, and a bunch of off-topic posts. This thing about off-topic posts being preferred was a total surprise to me. I thought: if off-topic posts are tolerated, then surely my on-topic post will be OK, because on-topic is preferred to off-topic on newsgroups. And I don't think their method of enforcement works at all. It may make that particular person go away, but does nothing to prevent other newbies from coming along and doing the same thing (unless they happen to come very close in time). For years I've been thinking that one of these days I would request that they change their FAQ to try to help prevent that experience from being repeated. But now I realize I probably won't. I don't think there's a way of doing it that wouldn't risk offending people or something. Besides, maybe the group dynamics have changed since then. Jayne |
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