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Old August 23rd 03, 02:23 AM
Todd Gastaldo
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Currently, Americas MDs are NOT behaving as physicians.

Americas MDs are behaving as CRIMINALS, senselessly closing birth canals and
gruesomely manipulating most babies' spines - among other obvious crimes...

See Johns Hopkins breast/vagina/penis power! (How America can INSTANTLY save
$200 million per year...)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2108

As always, I am in favor of pardons in advance for MDs. MDs are just
academic prime cuts forced through this culture's most powerful mental
meatgrinder - medical school.



ARE CHIROPRACTORS PHYSICIANS?

"Currently, 30 states permit doctors of chiropractic to refer to themselves
as 'chiropractic physicians.'"
--James Edwards, DC, Chairman, ACA Board of Governors
http://www.chiroweb.com/columnist/edwards/index.html

OPEN LETTER (archived for global access***)

James Edwards, DC
Chairman
Board of Governors
American Chiropractic Association
Board officer, ACA-PAC
Austin, Texas


Jim,

You wrote:

"Recently, Congressman Don Manzullo (D-IL) introduced HR 2560 in the U.S.
House of Representatives...Chiropractors would be removed from the
definition of 'physician' under §1861(r) of the Social Security Act."
http://www.chiroweb.com/columnist/edwards/index.html

When I got the Dorland's definition of "chiropractic" changed, Dorland's
Chief Lexicographer Douglas Anderson also changed the Dorland's definition
of "doctor" at my request. He took the opportunity to include not just
graduates of chiropractic colleges but graduates of other health profession
colleges (dentists, vets, podiatrists, etc.)

Given what's at stake, I will now work to get the Dorland's definition of
"physician" changed. (I hope ACA will not try to screw me again. See the
postscript.)

MD criminals should NOT be allowed to perpetuate their political power and
their massive spinal manipulation crime all the while attempting to
monopolize the term "physician."

Their placing themselves on the "physician" pedestal is a big reason they
are being allowed to commit their obvious crimes unmolested.

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo


PS After my definition of chiropractic was published in two consecutive
editions of Dorland's, ACA dishonestly attempted censor my BROADSCOPE
definition of chiropractic (which I derived from DD Palmer via the 1966 ACA
Commission for the Principles of Chiropractic).

ACA attempted to substitute the late Ed Maurer's NARROWSCOPE
"neuromusculoskeletal" definition.

Fortunately, ACA was unsuccessful. My BROADSCOPE definition of chiropractic
was published in a third edition of Dorland's.

See One SHORT post per day - help make CHIROPRACTIC HISTORY...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2098

Jim, the American Chiropractic Association and its esteemed Chairman are
still silent accessories to the massive obstetric birth crimes which include
a massive MD spinal manipulation crime.

Why, Jim?

Are you hoping that ACA silence will earn political plums?

One last note...

You wrote:

You wrote:

"The AMA urges all physicians to insist on being identified as physicians,
and to sign only those professional or medical documents identifying them as
such. The AMA will review and revise its own publications, as necessary, to
conform with its House of Delegates' policies on physician identification
and physician reference, and will refrain from any definition of physicians
as health care providers. The AMA supports seeking immediate modification of
the Social Security laws to change the definition of a physician to conform
with AMA policy. The AMA will seek legislation prohibiting the use of the
term 'physician' as a descriptor other than in the context of a medical
doctor (MD) or doctor of osteopathy (DO) (Res. 243, A-91; Reaffirmed BOT
Rep. I-93-25; Reaffirmed Sub. Res. 712, I-94; Res. 241, A-97; emphasis
added)."

My preference would be to entirely ABOLISH titular etiquette entirely. But
words are power and "physician" and "doctor" are power words. Until MDs
join me in my abolish-titular-etiquette sentiment I will work to ensure that
those non-cutting/non-drugging physicians known as DCs are acknowledged as
the chiropractic physicians they are whereever and whenever possible.

Again, MD criminals should NOT be allowed to perpetuate their political
power and their massive spinal manipulation crime all the while attempting
to monopolize the term "physician."

As always, I am in favor of pardons in advance for MDs. MDs are just
academic prime cuts forced through this culture's most powerful mental
meatgrinder - medical school.

See again: Johns Hopkins breast/vagina/penis power! (How America can
INSTANTLY save
$200 million per year...)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2108

Thanks for reading,

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo


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Old August 23rd 03, 04:42 AM
Jeff
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Considering that the theory behind chiropractic is not supported by medical
science, I don't think chiropractors should be allowed to call themselves
physicians. In addition, chiropractors do not have the in-depth training
that physicians about the human body or appropriate training such as
residency.

Jeff


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Old August 23rd 03, 08:56 AM
giselle
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Jeff wrote:

Considering that the theory behind chiropractic is not supported by medical
science, I don't think chiropractors should be allowed to call themselves
physicians. In addition, chiropractors do not have the in-depth training
that physicians about the human body or appropriate training such as
residency.


They do provide a service though. I used to think that they
were total quacks. But, after working with a personal injury
lawyer, I've seen a suprising number of mutual referrals
between neurologists and chiroporactors as well as mutual
respect. In a sense, chiropractors bridge the gap between
physical (or massage) therapists and physicians. Some people
are highly comforted by their services. Whether the placebo
effect is the main modus operandi or not remains unknown.

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Old August 23rd 03, 02:01 PM
Jeff
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"giselle" wrote in message
...
Jeff wrote:

Considering that the theory behind chiropractic is not supported by

medical
science, I don't think chiropractors should be allowed to call

themselves
physicians. In addition, chiropractors do not have the in-depth training
that physicians about the human body or appropriate training such as
residency.


They do provide a service though. I used to think that they
were total quacks. But, after working with a personal injury
lawyer, I've seen a suprising number of mutual referrals
between neurologists and chiroporactors as well as mutual
respect. In a sense, chiropractors bridge the gap between
physical (or massage) therapists and physicians. Some people
are highly comforted by their services. Whether the placebo
effect is the main modus operandi or not remains unknown.


I agree that some chiropractors provide valuable services. However,
physical therapists, occupational therapists, dentists, psychologists and
social workers all provide extremely important services. But they aren't
physicians either.

And I don't see how chiropractors bridge a gap between physical therapists
and physicians. Physical therapists are highly trained professionals how
understand anatomy and physiology from their coursework in school.

Jeff


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Old August 25th 03, 03:57 PM
David
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"Jeff" wrote in message
...

"giselle" wrote in message
...
Jeff wrote:

Considering that the theory behind chiropractic is not supported by

medical
science, I don't think chiropractors should be allowed to call

themselves
physicians. In addition, chiropractors do not have the in-depth

training
that physicians about the human body or appropriate training such as
residency.


They do provide a service though. I used to think that they
were total quacks. But, after working with a personal injury
lawyer, I've seen a suprising number of mutual referrals
between neurologists and chiroporactors as well as mutual
respect. In a sense, chiropractors bridge the gap between
physical (or massage) therapists and physicians. Some people
are highly comforted by their services. Whether the placebo
effect is the main modus operandi or not remains unknown.


I agree that some chiropractors provide valuable services. However,
physical therapists, occupational therapists, dentists, psychologists and
social workers all provide extremely important services. But they aren't
physicians either.

And I don't see how chiropractors bridge a gap between physical therapists
and physicians. Physical therapists are highly trained professionals how
understand anatomy and physiology from their coursework in school.

Jeff


Jeffie has not researched this.


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Old August 23rd 03, 05:45 PM
Jeff
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(...)

Personally, I'd put chiropractors below physical therapists and massage
therapists, in roughly the same category as fortune tellers and
astrologers and faith healers. You know, the KOOK category.


Chiropractors have been shown to improve back pain. For a few people with
very specific conditions, some chriopractors do a wonderful service. (I
think good physical therapy would be just as effective). However,
considering that chiropractic is based on theories that are not in any way
backed by science, I think the work would be better off without them.

(...)


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Old August 25th 03, 03:57 PM
David
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"Jeff" wrote in message
...
(...)

Personally, I'd put chiropractors below physical therapists and massage
therapists, in roughly the same category as fortune tellers and
astrologers and faith healers. You know, the KOOK category.


Chiropractors have been shown to improve back pain. For a few people with
very specific conditions, some chriopractors do a wonderful service. (I
think good physical therapy would be just as effective). However,
considering that chiropractic is based on theories that are not in any way
backed by science, I think the work would be better off without them.

(...)


There you go again, trying to convince folks, that you think.


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Old August 26th 03, 12:07 AM
stuart
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"Jeff" wrote in message
...
(...)

Personally, I'd put chiropractors below physical therapists and massage
therapists, in roughly the same category as fortune tellers and
astrologers and faith healers. You know, the KOOK category.


Chiropractors have been shown to improve back pain. For a few people with
very specific conditions, some chriopractors do a wonderful service. (I
think good physical therapy would be just as effective). However,
considering that chiropractic is based on theories that are not in any way
backed by science,



I think the work would be better off without them.

Idiots way *more important* than you have been trying to do that for over a
century. How is it that it has failed miserably?
You think maybe some prejudicial ignorance just might be in play here?



(...)




 




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