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"dead beat" parent round-up
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... As long as men and women keep getting together there will always be a scapegoat, (unless the laws change). I'm just angry that the media just reports what the pro-cs people want them to and there's not anyone looking at the other side. The problem, as I see it, is the media is lazy. They appear to be biased because frequently they only report one side of a story. When people write to them after stories are reported (I do this a lot) they acknowledge the great points being made, but they don't go back and re-report the story using the additional facts. --------------------------- So far they haven't even acknowledged my letter. Occasionally they have been known to revisit a story, (I can't think of any specific one), but the best I'm hoping for is that they tone down the rhetoric next time they have a 'round-up'. --------------------------- Examples would be things like: 1.) Contacting women's crisis center advocates to do a story on domestic violence but not interviewing any men's rights advocates who would point out abuse is split nearly 50/50 between the genders. ----------------------- Exactly. In my opinion women are as violent as men but men don't report it and the system doesn't support them if they do. Though, around here if the cops have to come to a domestic dispute BOTH of them have to go to jail. -------------------- 2.) Interviewing judges about restraining orders and not interviewing anyone who would point out attorneys encourage women to seek RO's as a strategy in divorce and 30-70% of them, depending on the sample, are based on false claims. 3.) Claiming the state has cut back on its commitment to low income college students without mentioning the state law providing CS to adult children attending school has been affirmed by the state supreme court twice so children of divorce, separated, or never married parents have an ever increasing source of money for college. 4.) Editorializing that the new violence against the unborn law is an assault on women's rights without mentioning that the law gives parents, including fathers, access to the legal system to seek justice. 5.) Reporting children are being killed by men at alarming rates without talking to anyone who would point out the children are killed by live-in boyfriends and stepfathers, not bio-fathers. 6.) Reporting more women die through domestic violence than men but not talking to anyone who would point out the numbers for women committing violent crimes are lower because their crimes are collected statistically in another category since women hire boyfriends or acquaintances to do the killing for them. -------------------------- All of those are valid points, (and well written). You should send that to KVOA. I doubt that anything will affect them but we have to keep trying. Who knows, maybe one day someone who is sympathetic to our cause will happen upon it. ~AZ~ |
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"dead beat" parent round-up
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... As long as men and women keep getting together there will always be a scapegoat, (unless the laws change). I'm just angry that the media just reports what the pro-cs people want them to and there's not anyone looking at the other side. The problem, as I see it, is the media is lazy. They appear to be biased because frequently they only report one side of a story. When people write to them after stories are reported (I do this a lot) they acknowledge the great points being made, but they don't go back and re-report the story using the additional facts. --------------------------- So far they haven't even acknowledged my letter. Occasionally they have been known to revisit a story, (I can't think of any specific one), but the best I'm hoping for is that they tone down the rhetoric next time they have a 'round-up'. --------------------------- Examples would be things like: 1.) Contacting women's crisis center advocates to do a story on domestic violence but not interviewing any men's rights advocates who would point out abuse is split nearly 50/50 between the genders. ----------------------- Exactly. In my opinion women are as violent as men but men don't report it and the system doesn't support them if they do. Though, around here if the cops have to come to a domestic dispute BOTH of them have to go to jail. -------------------- 2.) Interviewing judges about restraining orders and not interviewing anyone who would point out attorneys encourage women to seek RO's as a strategy in divorce and 30-70% of them, depending on the sample, are based on false claims. 3.) Claiming the state has cut back on its commitment to low income college students without mentioning the state law providing CS to adult children attending school has been affirmed by the state supreme court twice so children of divorce, separated, or never married parents have an ever increasing source of money for college. 4.) Editorializing that the new violence against the unborn law is an assault on women's rights without mentioning that the law gives parents, including fathers, access to the legal system to seek justice. 5.) Reporting children are being killed by men at alarming rates without talking to anyone who would point out the children are killed by live-in boyfriends and stepfathers, not bio-fathers. 6.) Reporting more women die through domestic violence than men but not talking to anyone who would point out the numbers for women committing violent crimes are lower because their crimes are collected statistically in another category since women hire boyfriends or acquaintances to do the killing for them. -------------------------- All of those are valid points, (and well written). You should send that to KVOA. I doubt that anything will affect them but we have to keep trying. Who knows, maybe one day someone who is sympathetic to our cause will happen upon it. ~AZ~ |
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"dead beat" parent round-up
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... As long as men and women keep getting together there will always be a scapegoat, (unless the laws change). I'm just angry that the media just reports what the pro-cs people want them to and there's not anyone looking at the other side. The problem, as I see it, is the media is lazy. They appear to be biased because frequently they only report one side of a story. When people write to them after stories are reported (I do this a lot) they acknowledge the great points being made, but they don't go back and re-report the story using the additional facts. --------------------------- So far they haven't even acknowledged my letter. Occasionally they have been known to revisit a story, (I can't think of any specific one), but the best I'm hoping for is that they tone down the rhetoric next time they have a 'round-up'. --------------------------- Examples would be things like: 1.) Contacting women's crisis center advocates to do a story on domestic violence but not interviewing any men's rights advocates who would point out abuse is split nearly 50/50 between the genders. ----------------------- Exactly. In my opinion women are as violent as men but men don't report it and the system doesn't support them if they do. Though, around here if the cops have to come to a domestic dispute BOTH of them have to go to jail. -------------------- 2.) Interviewing judges about restraining orders and not interviewing anyone who would point out attorneys encourage women to seek RO's as a strategy in divorce and 30-70% of them, depending on the sample, are based on false claims. 3.) Claiming the state has cut back on its commitment to low income college students without mentioning the state law providing CS to adult children attending school has been affirmed by the state supreme court twice so children of divorce, separated, or never married parents have an ever increasing source of money for college. 4.) Editorializing that the new violence against the unborn law is an assault on women's rights without mentioning that the law gives parents, including fathers, access to the legal system to seek justice. 5.) Reporting children are being killed by men at alarming rates without talking to anyone who would point out the children are killed by live-in boyfriends and stepfathers, not bio-fathers. 6.) Reporting more women die through domestic violence than men but not talking to anyone who would point out the numbers for women committing violent crimes are lower because their crimes are collected statistically in another category since women hire boyfriends or acquaintances to do the killing for them. -------------------------- All of those are valid points, (and well written). You should send that to KVOA. I doubt that anything will affect them but we have to keep trying. Who knows, maybe one day someone who is sympathetic to our cause will happen upon it. ~AZ~ |
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"AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... As long as men and women keep getting together there will always be a scapegoat, (unless the laws change). I'm just angry that the media just reports what the pro-cs people want them to and there's not anyone looking at the other side. The problem, as I see it, is the media is lazy. They appear to be biased because frequently they only report one side of a story. When people write to them after stories are reported (I do this a lot) they acknowledge the great points being made, but they don't go back and re-report the story using the additional facts. --------------------------- So far they haven't even acknowledged my letter. Occasionally they have been known to revisit a story, (I can't think of any specific one), but the best I'm hoping for is that they tone down the rhetoric next time they have a 'round-up'. --------------------------- Examples would be things like: 1.) Contacting women's crisis center advocates to do a story on domestic violence but not interviewing any men's rights advocates who would point out abuse is split nearly 50/50 between the genders. ----------------------- Exactly. In my opinion women are as violent as men but men don't report it and the system doesn't support them if they do. Though, around here if the cops have to come to a domestic dispute BOTH of them have to go to jail. -------------------- 2.) Interviewing judges about restraining orders and not interviewing anyone who would point out attorneys encourage women to seek RO's as a strategy in divorce and 30-70% of them, depending on the sample, are based on false claims. 3.) Claiming the state has cut back on its commitment to low income college students without mentioning the state law providing CS to adult children attending school has been affirmed by the state supreme court twice so children of divorce, separated, or never married parents have an ever increasing source of money for college. 4.) Editorializing that the new violence against the unborn law is an assault on women's rights without mentioning that the law gives parents, including fathers, access to the legal system to seek justice. 5.) Reporting children are being killed by men at alarming rates without talking to anyone who would point out the children are killed by live-in boyfriends and stepfathers, not bio-fathers. 6.) Reporting more women die through domestic violence than men but not talking to anyone who would point out the numbers for women committing violent crimes are lower because their crimes are collected statistically in another category since women hire boyfriends or acquaintances to do the killing for them. -------------------------- All of those are valid points, (and well written). You should send that to KVOA. I doubt that anything will affect them but we have to keep trying. Who knows, maybe one day someone who is sympathetic to our cause will happen upon it. I've got my hands full monitoring the local media, but I would think no one would care if the good stuff we publish here got re-used to elevate the media's knowledge. Here is my Letter to the Editor The Oregonian is publishing this weekend in response to their recent editorial equating the new Violence Against Unborn Fetus Act with an erosion of women's rights. Letter to the Editor: There is another side to the Unborn Victims of Violence Act designed to protect the fetus that can't be ignored. Fathers have the right to justice in the legal system too. Protecting unborn children is not just a women's rights issue. It's a parent's rights issue. Women's rights advocacy groups have fought hard to gain exclusive post-conception rights for women by excluding fathers from making any post-conception decisions. To suggest a woman's right to abortion should trump both sexes crime victim rights is just illogical. What could possibly be wrong with giving a father equal rights to see justice done if his unborn child is murdered? |
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"AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... As long as men and women keep getting together there will always be a scapegoat, (unless the laws change). I'm just angry that the media just reports what the pro-cs people want them to and there's not anyone looking at the other side. The problem, as I see it, is the media is lazy. They appear to be biased because frequently they only report one side of a story. When people write to them after stories are reported (I do this a lot) they acknowledge the great points being made, but they don't go back and re-report the story using the additional facts. --------------------------- So far they haven't even acknowledged my letter. Occasionally they have been known to revisit a story, (I can't think of any specific one), but the best I'm hoping for is that they tone down the rhetoric next time they have a 'round-up'. --------------------------- Examples would be things like: 1.) Contacting women's crisis center advocates to do a story on domestic violence but not interviewing any men's rights advocates who would point out abuse is split nearly 50/50 between the genders. ----------------------- Exactly. In my opinion women are as violent as men but men don't report it and the system doesn't support them if they do. Though, around here if the cops have to come to a domestic dispute BOTH of them have to go to jail. -------------------- 2.) Interviewing judges about restraining orders and not interviewing anyone who would point out attorneys encourage women to seek RO's as a strategy in divorce and 30-70% of them, depending on the sample, are based on false claims. 3.) Claiming the state has cut back on its commitment to low income college students without mentioning the state law providing CS to adult children attending school has been affirmed by the state supreme court twice so children of divorce, separated, or never married parents have an ever increasing source of money for college. 4.) Editorializing that the new violence against the unborn law is an assault on women's rights without mentioning that the law gives parents, including fathers, access to the legal system to seek justice. 5.) Reporting children are being killed by men at alarming rates without talking to anyone who would point out the children are killed by live-in boyfriends and stepfathers, not bio-fathers. 6.) Reporting more women die through domestic violence than men but not talking to anyone who would point out the numbers for women committing violent crimes are lower because their crimes are collected statistically in another category since women hire boyfriends or acquaintances to do the killing for them. -------------------------- All of those are valid points, (and well written). You should send that to KVOA. I doubt that anything will affect them but we have to keep trying. Who knows, maybe one day someone who is sympathetic to our cause will happen upon it. I've got my hands full monitoring the local media, but I would think no one would care if the good stuff we publish here got re-used to elevate the media's knowledge. Here is my Letter to the Editor The Oregonian is publishing this weekend in response to their recent editorial equating the new Violence Against Unborn Fetus Act with an erosion of women's rights. Letter to the Editor: There is another side to the Unborn Victims of Violence Act designed to protect the fetus that can't be ignored. Fathers have the right to justice in the legal system too. Protecting unborn children is not just a women's rights issue. It's a parent's rights issue. Women's rights advocacy groups have fought hard to gain exclusive post-conception rights for women by excluding fathers from making any post-conception decisions. To suggest a woman's right to abortion should trump both sexes crime victim rights is just illogical. What could possibly be wrong with giving a father equal rights to see justice done if his unborn child is murdered? |
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"AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... As long as men and women keep getting together there will always be a scapegoat, (unless the laws change). I'm just angry that the media just reports what the pro-cs people want them to and there's not anyone looking at the other side. The problem, as I see it, is the media is lazy. They appear to be biased because frequently they only report one side of a story. When people write to them after stories are reported (I do this a lot) they acknowledge the great points being made, but they don't go back and re-report the story using the additional facts. --------------------------- So far they haven't even acknowledged my letter. Occasionally they have been known to revisit a story, (I can't think of any specific one), but the best I'm hoping for is that they tone down the rhetoric next time they have a 'round-up'. --------------------------- Examples would be things like: 1.) Contacting women's crisis center advocates to do a story on domestic violence but not interviewing any men's rights advocates who would point out abuse is split nearly 50/50 between the genders. ----------------------- Exactly. In my opinion women are as violent as men but men don't report it and the system doesn't support them if they do. Though, around here if the cops have to come to a domestic dispute BOTH of them have to go to jail. -------------------- 2.) Interviewing judges about restraining orders and not interviewing anyone who would point out attorneys encourage women to seek RO's as a strategy in divorce and 30-70% of them, depending on the sample, are based on false claims. 3.) Claiming the state has cut back on its commitment to low income college students without mentioning the state law providing CS to adult children attending school has been affirmed by the state supreme court twice so children of divorce, separated, or never married parents have an ever increasing source of money for college. 4.) Editorializing that the new violence against the unborn law is an assault on women's rights without mentioning that the law gives parents, including fathers, access to the legal system to seek justice. 5.) Reporting children are being killed by men at alarming rates without talking to anyone who would point out the children are killed by live-in boyfriends and stepfathers, not bio-fathers. 6.) Reporting more women die through domestic violence than men but not talking to anyone who would point out the numbers for women committing violent crimes are lower because their crimes are collected statistically in another category since women hire boyfriends or acquaintances to do the killing for them. -------------------------- All of those are valid points, (and well written). You should send that to KVOA. I doubt that anything will affect them but we have to keep trying. Who knows, maybe one day someone who is sympathetic to our cause will happen upon it. I've got my hands full monitoring the local media, but I would think no one would care if the good stuff we publish here got re-used to elevate the media's knowledge. Here is my Letter to the Editor The Oregonian is publishing this weekend in response to their recent editorial equating the new Violence Against Unborn Fetus Act with an erosion of women's rights. Letter to the Editor: There is another side to the Unborn Victims of Violence Act designed to protect the fetus that can't be ignored. Fathers have the right to justice in the legal system too. Protecting unborn children is not just a women's rights issue. It's a parent's rights issue. Women's rights advocacy groups have fought hard to gain exclusive post-conception rights for women by excluding fathers from making any post-conception decisions. To suggest a woman's right to abortion should trump both sexes crime victim rights is just illogical. What could possibly be wrong with giving a father equal rights to see justice done if his unborn child is murdered? |
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AZ Astrea wrote:
"Mysonsfather (AKA ZonaHawk)" wrote in message news:PXobc.22191$Q45.10284@fed1read02.. As a fellow Tucsonan, I am pleased to hear about your letter to kvoa. I didn't see the report on channel 4 but I sure heard about it at work today. I was also prompted to write a letter, not only to KVOA, but also to our state Rep Kolbe, who has yet to respond to any of my letters and emails regarding child support issues. Keep up the faith. Michael ------------------------------------- I have gotten tons of responses from Congressmen when I have sent the ACLU action alert letters. I would send letters to them all the time if I felt I could write a letter without ranting and raving. I know it's hard to be taken seriously when you start calling DCS nazi's and such but I have a hard time keeping my cool with a subject I am so passionate about. I am less concerned about how KVOA sees me and while I tried to keep it down I know I did a bit of ranting. Oh well, they'll consider it or they won't. You just need to learn to shift from a "hot" rage to a "cold" one. Cold ones are much more dangerous. - Ron ^*^ |
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AZ Astrea wrote:
"Mysonsfather (AKA ZonaHawk)" wrote in message news:PXobc.22191$Q45.10284@fed1read02.. As a fellow Tucsonan, I am pleased to hear about your letter to kvoa. I didn't see the report on channel 4 but I sure heard about it at work today. I was also prompted to write a letter, not only to KVOA, but also to our state Rep Kolbe, who has yet to respond to any of my letters and emails regarding child support issues. Keep up the faith. Michael ------------------------------------- I have gotten tons of responses from Congressmen when I have sent the ACLU action alert letters. I would send letters to them all the time if I felt I could write a letter without ranting and raving. I know it's hard to be taken seriously when you start calling DCS nazi's and such but I have a hard time keeping my cool with a subject I am so passionate about. I am less concerned about how KVOA sees me and while I tried to keep it down I know I did a bit of ranting. Oh well, they'll consider it or they won't. You just need to learn to shift from a "hot" rage to a "cold" one. Cold ones are much more dangerous. - Ron ^*^ |
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AZ Astrea wrote:
"Mysonsfather (AKA ZonaHawk)" wrote in message news:PXobc.22191$Q45.10284@fed1read02.. As a fellow Tucsonan, I am pleased to hear about your letter to kvoa. I didn't see the report on channel 4 but I sure heard about it at work today. I was also prompted to write a letter, not only to KVOA, but also to our state Rep Kolbe, who has yet to respond to any of my letters and emails regarding child support issues. Keep up the faith. Michael ------------------------------------- I have gotten tons of responses from Congressmen when I have sent the ACLU action alert letters. I would send letters to them all the time if I felt I could write a letter without ranting and raving. I know it's hard to be taken seriously when you start calling DCS nazi's and such but I have a hard time keeping my cool with a subject I am so passionate about. I am less concerned about how KVOA sees me and while I tried to keep it down I know I did a bit of ranting. Oh well, they'll consider it or they won't. You just need to learn to shift from a "hot" rage to a "cold" one. Cold ones are much more dangerous. - Ron ^*^ |
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My brother lives in Peoria and said these round-ups are done all the time
there. I personally am in favor of this. I think they should have more round-ups everywhere! It's about time justice is served on these jerks. |
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